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fluffy_little_something · Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:23 pm

Well, you have included synths in your list on page one that are using stock SE filters, like for instance Elektrostudio and TubeOhm

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:27 pm

Elektrostudio is using his own modules.

As alraedy mentioned the UVI libraries use "stock filters" from Mach Five 3 too...

BTW i am not judging the quality of all those emulations in the list. If that would be the case it would be much shorter...

My only "qualiy" statements are the fact which ones i use myself. Those are usually marked with yellow color.

Ingo

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:31 pm

Elektrostudio is using his own modules, indeed, but I did read somewhere that none of them is actually a custom-coded filter module.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:36 pm

I have already added some sampled instruments to my list and wil maybe add the UVI ones too but agaian the UVI JX-3P is NOT an emulation based on modeled components (based on the synths they want to emulate).

Based on my experience sample based synth got great problems reproducing e.g. free adjustable pulsewidth or PWM with multiple amount settings.
Same about a continuous waveform selector like in e.g. the Moog Little Phatty.

If i would only add emulations that are close to the hardwarre the list would be VERY short...

As alraedy mentioned those are not added due to to their quality. I have also not tested all of them.

Ingo

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:45 pm

Well, if modeled components were your criterion, your list would be even shorter

In many cases people go like this: Wow, that is a nice vintage synth, I could do an emulation. Let's make a nice user interface reminiscent of the original, provide more or less the same features and try to make it somehow sound similar to the original

Anyway, never mind, I don't care if you add them or not. I just mentioned those two synths as I thought you might have forgotten them...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:50 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Well, if modeled components were your criterion, your list would be even shorter

Anyway, never mind, I don't care if you add them or not. I just mentioned those two synths as I thought you might have forgotten them...

It's not like i just mentioned but there are some misunderstandings concerning how the UVI emulations work. Anyway originally i planned to only include modeled plugins indeed. Later i even added iPad synths.

Maybe i'll radically clean that list at some point and only leave emulations that are at least close to the synths they want to emulate (and those i was able to test myself) which would exclude several of the SE ones indeed...

Not sure if you had a look at those two:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4943839

https://sites.google.com/site/mlvst0/

Ingo

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:56 pm

I don't think it's worth the trouble. It is nice to have a complete list

Maybe it would be better to give them marks depending on their degree of authenticity, like 1 to 5 stars. And no star for those you have never tested.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:59 pm

Ingonator wrote: Maybe i'll radically clean that list at some point and only leave emulations that are at least close to the synths they want to emulate (and those i was able to test myself) which would exclude several of the SE ones indeed...

That would be cool, even though it's pretty much in the eye of the beholder of course if these are really close. I don't know if you have all the hardware to be able to do accurate A/B comparisons...

Pretty nice list though. Comes really handy if you want to check out those plugins.

electro · Post by **electro** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:06 pm

Boom 808 for Reason sounds good.

http://shop.propellerheads.se/product/b ... ion-synth/

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:07 pm

Ingonator wrote: Not sure if you had a look at those two:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4943839

https://sites.google.com/site/mlvst0/

Ingo

Interesting. I had read that before, the JX-3P and the Juno 60 shared several components, which is why I suggested Patrick do an emulation of the JX-3P as he could probably reuse a lot of code

I used to have the JX-8P, my first synth, but only because it was used and thus cheaper. I would have preferred the JX-3P instead, it had a superior sound in my view...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:11 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:I don't think it's worth the trouble. It is nice to have a complete list
Maybe it would be better to give them marks depending on their degree of authenticity, like 1 to 5 stars. And no star for those you have never tested.

I am "marking" those that i use myself (use, not just tested shortly) with yellow color which is at least a kind of "quality" statement.

I could mark those i already tested with a different color.

UPDATE:
Additionally to those i have marked with yellow already I started marking plugins i had owned earlier and/or have tested with orange color.

Also added UVI UVX-3P to the list.

Ingo

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:53 pm

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:25 pm

Ingonator wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Well, if modeled components were your criterion, your list would be even shorter

Anyway, never mind, I don't care if you add them or not. I just mentioned those two synths as I thought you might have forgotten them...
It's not like i just mentioned but there are some misunderstandings concerning how the UVI emulations work. Anyway originally i planned to only include modeled plugins indeed. Later i even added iPad synths.

Maybe i'll radically clean that list at some point and only leave emulations that are at least close to the synths they want to emulate (and those i was able to test myself) which would exclude several of the SE ones indeed...

Not sure if you had a look at those two:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4943839

https://sites.google.com/site/mlvst0/

Ingo

Please don't clean the list up! It is nice to see what is out there, even if it is not 100% accurate, and this thread is the most complete list of Roland-esque software I know of.

--Sean

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:31 pm

Right, no need to clean it up imo too.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:40 pm

chk071 wrote:Right, no need to clean it up imo too.

OK.

Maybe some kind of sorting and/or rating ha to be done at some point.

Ingo

Emulations of Roland gear (synths, drum machines and FXs)