SPL Passeq

[scintillator]

Do people simply not try to use this for parallel (cut + boost with different shapes) EQ? It's really set up for that, much like a Pultec with added mid-band.

Don't trust the knobs! A tweak here, a tweak there and as a result, it's impossible to tell what curve you end up with. Only VSTPluginAnalyzer could tell but it is not a DAW. Trust your ears? Hmmm, this could be VERY misleading.

That's why I use ReaEQ, ProQ, etc. They accurately show what I'm doing, so there's no surpirses.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[antithesist]

I'm surprised no one's posted about this yet. From my demo experience this thing is just amazing for boosting the hi freq and adding some air. Very smooth!

i have! posted about it many times in the past but never got much traction.

Maybe his time machine was broken that day. I hear there was a shortage of flux capacitors in 2010.

Probably my fault for reviving the original thread, but everyone here can read letters and numbers, right?

I'd say certainly not even worth $99 (or $49, for that matter)... though at about 40 USD each for Passeq, Museq and bx_opto (especially after getting the pedal version for free), I could grit my teeth and push the button.

that sounds ridiculous to me that it's not worth $49.. you can't be serious, but maybe you are, so I will just say I disagree.

the only thing that annoys me about that is the usual plug in alliance 80% discounts (this is the hardest I have ever seen, before it was more 65% ish) and then wanting $20 transfer fees "for now" till they "upgrade the shop system", which has been years now with no upgrades. That really annoys me no end.. Zero respect for paying long time customers.

Sorry, I worded that poorly... meant "to me," given our budget, other plug-ins, needs, etc.

It's probably "worth" the $250 current full price, if you're made of money.

Then again, most of the people that I've encountered with money are also the biggest cheapskates I've met.

$36.75 is no doubt a steal on just about any budget.

I love that Passeq and Museq are modeled directly on modern SPL and Elysia analog hardware.

I absolutely get what you mean about some of PA's business practices, too.

[Aiynzahev]

I certainly never thought I'd see Passeq & Museq for $40. I feel I shouldn't pass up Museq, like I bet I'd get some good use from it, but at the same time, I can't just buy every plugin out there that's cheap. Should I make an exception? I Dunno. I already passed up the Opto for $50, I dunno if that deal is still running?

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[musikmachine]

I wondered what you meant, Passeq is really nice, easily worth $49 but haven't spent much time with Museq but i've read a lot of good stuff about it. I'll use them for DIY masters but both sound good on the low end which is something i wanted.

Yeah the transfer fee is annoying when the sale discounts are so steep but i try to buy stuff i'm pretty sure i'll use when it comes to PA. I think i'll wait for them to update their shop before attempting to sell anything though!

[Robmobius]

$49 on mega-sale right now (or less with combined discounts)... could not resist!

That's a steal... It's definitely one of the better EQs.

[antithesist]

Gamma-UT: Very much an SPL Pultec with the midband and additional frequencies, I think.

scintillator: That's the point, you have to use your ears on this one, but I tend to like EQs with graphs more... wish ones like this had a graph you could show and hide.

I bought Waves Q-Clone cheap ($25-ish) for this very purpose, though it's kind of an extra pain to set up.

Aiynzahev: I obvously say go for museq!

It was still $49 when I looked a little while ago... my mission seems to be to buy every cheap great plug-in, though you may have more will power.

I think the $49 opto upgrade is ongoing... you have your own code (unless they're all the same), and I haven't heard anything about it ending.

TheoM: I don't think resellers even have these three deals.

They're all $49, but by entering the bx_opto upgrade first and then each of the EQs, I got an additional discount that brought the price breakdown to $36.75 per EQ.

That's so true what you say about PA's "all" upgrade, that they just keep adding more (I especially like the native releases of their UADs, like the Millenia, in particular).

[musikmachine]

Post EQ Spectrum Analyser? I put one at the end of all my tracks and busses now, a lot of EQs don't have them built in but i appreciate having them, i use EQ8 and PSP Neon a lot...

[antithesist]

OK, the Passeq and museq prices went back to $249... sale over!

I believe the opto upgrade continues, though.

Right on to Robmobius and musikmachine, too.

Everyone enjoy you PA plug-ins, no matter what you paid for them.

I've paid the highest and the lowest on other brands.

[scintillator]

scintillator: That's the point, you have to use your ears on this one, but I tend to like EQs with graphs more... wish ones like this had a graph you could show and hide.

I bought Waves Q-Clone cheap ($25-ish) for this very purpose, though it's kind of an extra pain to set up.

You always have to use your ears, of course.
This was not what I meant: playing with the controls more often than not results in curves that are quite... unexpected and certainly not what the knobs read, especially if you're doing both pushing and pulling. And you could be misled by differences in volume, the hard-to-read interface, other distractions, etc. So you could easily end up with settings that are the exact opposite of what you want to achieve. So for me using Passeq, Museq, NI's Massive Passive and similar is a hassle, a risk and not justified by the end result. These are more toys than tools to me - if you're in a playful mood, or into tinkering with esoteric devices - these are great, but for precision or speed of use - no, no and NO.

[antithesist]

Post EQ Spectrum Analyser? I put one at the end of all my tracks and busses now, a lot of EQs don't have them built in but i appreciate having them, i use EQ8 and PSP Neon a lot...

Yeah, I do that, too... but with Q-Clone in a DAW, you can route its test signal (fast full bandwidth sweeps) to just about any plug-in (takes me some head-scratching sometimes) and capture its response.

[antithesist]

scintillator: That's the point, you have to use your ears on this one, but I tend to like EQs with graphs more... wish ones like this had a graph you could show and hide.

I bought Waves Q-Clone cheap ($25-ish) for this very purpose, though it's kind of an extra pain to set up.

You always have to use your ears, of course.
This was not what I meant: playing with the controls more often than not results in curves that are quite... unexpected and certainly not what the knobs read, especially if you're doing both pushing and pulling. And you could be misled by differences in volume, the hard-to-read interface, other distractions, etc. So you could easily end up with settings that are the exact opposite of what you want to achieve. So for me using Passeq, Museq, NI's Massive Passive and similar is a hassle, a risk and not justified by the end result. These are more toys than tools to me - if you're in a playful mood, or into tinkering with esoteric devices - these are great, but for precision or speed of use - no, no and NO.

I agree with that overall... that's where graphs plus listening rule.

[musikmachine]

Mix referencing too, it is hard to trust your ears to be objective and you do need a visual reference as well but that helps at the final mixdown stage. Will have to see how it goes with these two EQs in use.

[antithesist]

Mix referencing too, it is hard to trust your ears to be objective and you do need a visual reference as well but that helps at the final mixdown stage. Will have to see how it goes with these two EQs in use.

Good point... I finally got to play with the EQs and opto last night... so far, so good.

I'm really happy with having waited for extra good prices on some of the usually much more expensive PA plug-ins!