Ohhhaaa - I guess you're writing a song or even an opera for your labrador retriever. Then you need a headphone of that frequency range ... but - you also need a DAW and at least a synth that puts out sounds of that range, up to 192 khz ... . That's an interesting and challenging project!psychoxkps wrote:192 khz - do you see it anywhere? some of good brand prefer..
192khz headphones.. exist?
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- KVRAF
- 3352 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
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- KVRist
- 333 posts since 15 Jul, 2007
I feel like the same joke is being made over and over!

- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
actually if you ran a synth at 192k and it didn't output 192k i'd be worried about the quality of that synth.
same for effects.
unless it specifically said somewhere that it'll render at a fixed rate (arts acoustic reverb / etc?) that would just be annoying.
if you wanted to render at 44.1k you'd use a sample rate of 44.1k.
i know, i know. most users are "retarded".
for those of us that actually want to pay attention though it would be nice if the tool did what you told it to do. that is after all, it's job.

same for effects.
unless it specifically said somewhere that it'll render at a fixed rate (arts acoustic reverb / etc?) that would just be annoying.
if you wanted to render at 44.1k you'd use a sample rate of 44.1k.
i know, i know. most users are "retarded".
for those of us that actually want to pay attention though it would be nice if the tool did what you told it to do. that is after all, it's job.

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- KVRAF
- 3689 posts since 13 Jun, 2004
dogs don't appreciate sub-bass?!
last summer, sitting at an open window next to a shutter
filled with about 50-60 piperell bats, flying out to collect
their insects, and flying straight back at me, veering about
4-5 ft away from me. pretty good. have a new affection for bats.
last summer, sitting at an open window next to a shutter
filled with about 50-60 piperell bats, flying out to collect
their insects, and flying straight back at me, veering about
4-5 ft away from me. pretty good. have a new affection for bats.
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 17 Apr, 2012
Let me assure you, that I am human and that - while over 40 years old - I can hear well over 30 kHz (depending on timbre of the sound).
That said, I seriously doubt there is a headset for 192kHz, but there is one with a frequency range of 8Hz up to 42kHz:
http://www.ultrasone.com/index.php/en/p ... e-pro.html
Not the cheapest one.
R.
That said, I seriously doubt there is a headset for 192kHz, but there is one with a frequency range of 8Hz up to 42kHz:
http://www.ultrasone.com/index.php/en/p ... e-pro.html
Not the cheapest one.
R.
- KVRAF
- 16802 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
All good 'n dandy, but it doesn't specify how that range was determined. If it were the -50dB points then there are probably load of other headphones with a simular range. If it were the +/-0.1dB points, that would be an astonishing accomplishment. My guess is it's somewhere inbetween, but still unspecified. For $1300 that's a big gamble...Richi wrote:there is one with a frequency range of 8Hz up to 42kHz:
http://www.ultrasone.com/index.php/en/p ... e-pro.html
Not the cheapest one.
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- KVRer
- 10 posts since 17 Apr, 2012
True. But then again for this price tag I would assume some kind of pre-sales assertion to such a technical question from the manufacturer or an authorized reseller. If the relevant specs aren't downloadable already.BertKoor wrote: My guess is it's somewhere inbetween, but still unspecified. For $1300 that's a big gamble...
R. (using his "good enough" audio-technica ATH-M40fs)
- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK
surely the only meaningful result would be using a pure sine wave, anything else would contain harmonics at different frequenciesRichi wrote:Let me assure you, that I am human and that - while over 40 years old - I can hear well over 30 kHz (depending on timbre of the sound)
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i think richi is considering the sample rate, not nyquist.
so in that light his claim that he can hear up to 15khz is completely reasonable.
i'm aware of no documented case, ever, of a human hearing a 30khz tone. it's simply impossible. you'd have to be a mutant. not human.
if it were true i'd urge him to go get his hearing professionally tested and end up in a study at a local university.
there will be a lot of people who are very interested in this case.
so in that light his claim that he can hear up to 15khz is completely reasonable.
i'm aware of no documented case, ever, of a human hearing a 30khz tone. it's simply impossible. you'd have to be a mutant. not human.
if it were true i'd urge him to go get his hearing professionally tested and end up in a study at a local university.
there will be a lot of people who are very interested in this case.
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- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK
yes that would make more sense. Disappointed there are no humans with bat hearingaciddose wrote:i think richi is considering the sample rate, not nyquist.
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
like the one here a few weeks back?aciddose wrote:
i'm aware of no documented case, ever, of a human hearing a 30khz tone. it's simply impossible. you'd have to be a mutant. not human.
if it were true i'd urge him to go get his hearing professionally tested and end up in a study at a local university.
there will be a lot of people who are very interested in this case.
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
the mutations that can lead to increased sensitivity or range do happen once in a while. they're just mutations, not normal at all. not common at all either.
there is on-going research regarding this. while it might be possible to pick up a sense of a tone in the ultra-sonic range, that doesn't mean you're actually hearing that tone directly. some theories about this involve oscillation of the cochlea and generation of various harmonics due to non-linear properties of the system. so you'd be hearing aliases of the tones in those cases.
i've never looked into the subject in depth and it appears to me any detailed information is behind a pay-wall. i'm sure there have been studies about the perception of ultra-sonic sweeps though. i just wonder whether the sweeps are perceived as continuous or not. i'd assume not.
if you can really detect a tone significantly above 20khz and notice yourself constantly hearing sounds other people can not - such as dog whistles - you should definitely get your hearing tested and have a doctor examine your ears. if you're interested and lucky enough to live near a university where research in this area takes place you could sign up there as well.
not sure what you mean by a few weeks ago though krim..
there is on-going research regarding this. while it might be possible to pick up a sense of a tone in the ultra-sonic range, that doesn't mean you're actually hearing that tone directly. some theories about this involve oscillation of the cochlea and generation of various harmonics due to non-linear properties of the system. so you'd be hearing aliases of the tones in those cases.
i've never looked into the subject in depth and it appears to me any detailed information is behind a pay-wall. i'm sure there have been studies about the perception of ultra-sonic sweeps though. i just wonder whether the sweeps are perceived as continuous or not. i'd assume not.
if you can really detect a tone significantly above 20khz and notice yourself constantly hearing sounds other people can not - such as dog whistles - you should definitely get your hearing tested and have a doctor examine your ears. if you're interested and lucky enough to live near a university where research in this area takes place you could sign up there as well.
not sure what you mean by a few weeks ago though krim..
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 24 Feb, 2012
Do The Fletcher-Munson Curves even account for audio at 30khz?
We'd have to make a new series of standards! Text-books re-written! Albums re-mastered!
It's lunacy!
*passes out*
We'd have to make a new series of standards! Text-books re-written! Albums re-mastered!
It's lunacy!
*passes out*
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