192khz headphones.. exist?
- KVRian
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
do you see it anywhere? some of good brand prefer..
- KVRian
- 909 posts since 26 Nov, 2005
You're confusing sampling rate with frequency response. Good headphones will typically have a frequency response be 20 Hz and 20k Hz.psychoxkps wrote:do you see it anywhere? some of good brand prefer..
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
192khz.. isnt that number very pretty to i think frequency response?
- KVRian
- 909 posts since 26 Nov, 2005
Humans can't really hear much above 20kHz. Headphones that could reproduce 192kHz would be a waste of technology, if it is even possible.psychoxkps wrote:192khz.. isnt that number very pretty to i think frequency response?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
but i found studio monitors with sampling rate 192khz.. why not headphones?
- KVRian
- 909 posts since 26 Nov, 2005
Those are active monitors with a build digital-analog converter. I don't know of any headphones that have built in amps or digital inputs.psychoxkps wrote:but i found studio monitors with sampling rate 192khz.. why not headphones?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
and that active monitors are better for hearing?
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
they'll have less high-frequency phase shift which is sometimes referred to as "smearing".
only, it isn't because of the speakers. it's because if you process at a rate like 44.1khz the filters will start to modify near 20khz, which you can hear. at 192khz the filters can operate instead at 60khz, which you can't hear. so smear away!
this have absolutely nothing to do with the speaker/monitor.
you can also just process 96khz and then when you output, convert to 48khz or 44.1khz. same result, no smearing. 192k is just stupid - no reasonable reason to use such a frequency to playback audio.
are you making music for bats? you're batman?

only, it isn't because of the speakers. it's because if you process at a rate like 44.1khz the filters will start to modify near 20khz, which you can hear. at 192khz the filters can operate instead at 60khz, which you can't hear. so smear away!
this have absolutely nothing to do with the speaker/monitor.
you can also just process 96khz and then when you output, convert to 48khz or 44.1khz. same result, no smearing. 192k is just stupid - no reasonable reason to use such a frequency to playback audio.
are you making music for bats? you're batman?

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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
if you research the hearing range of dogs and cats you'll find it doesn't come close to that 
dogs as far as i remember having even less range than humans.
dogs as far as i remember having even less range than humans.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Dogs can hear up to 60 kHz, but they lose an octave off the low end compared to humans.
Bats could make use of most of 192 kHz phones' range, but they'd have to come with a toothbrush.
Bats could make use of most of 192 kHz phones' range, but they'd have to come with a toothbrush.
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- KVRist
- 380 posts since 22 Jun, 2007
Dogs have actually much much better hearing range. Otherwise they wouldn't hear dog whistle which is silent to humansaciddose wrote:if you research the hearing range of dogs and cats you'll find it doesn't come close to that
dogs as far as i remember having even less range than humans.
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 12 Feb, 2006 from Prague
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- KVRist
- 392 posts since 21 Sep, 2011 from Northern California
*ahem* physics is for people who want to actually earn money for a living. We are musicians.
- KVRAF
- 8101 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
That's ironic then, y'know, calling them woofers and everything.Meffy wrote:Dogs can hear up to 60 kHz, but they lose an octave off the low end compared to humans.
