Is Soundcloud still worth registering for?
- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
I think so, it's still the most used platform and very helpful for musicians to get some feedback and have a hosting platform for their music. In the last 12 month I had over 10.000 plays so for me it's worth and also a good indicator (not so much the plays but the "likes" and "reposts").
Is it still worth registering for the pro account? It depends. There are some interesting features like "spotlight" to pin some tracks to the top of the profile, more statistics, more upload time. I'm not 100% sure but replacing of sounds is IMO only working with pro accounts, so this could be another interesting option.
Is it still worth registering for the pro account? It depends. There are some interesting features like "spotlight" to pin some tracks to the top of the profile, more statistics, more upload time. I'm not 100% sure but replacing of sounds is IMO only working with pro accounts, so this could be another interesting option.
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- 455 posts since 31 May, 2013 from Space is the Place
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
The app fvcking sucks though.
I think iZotope must be behind it, because they managed to take a brilliant initial concept and product, and then completely f&ck it up. Makes my blood boil even thinking about it.
I think iZotope must be behind it, because they managed to take a brilliant initial concept and product, and then completely f&ck it up. Makes my blood boil even thinking about it.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35518 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
It is indeed. Or just 'weegie' if you're so inclined.Karten wrote:It's Glaswegian.penguinfromdeep wrote:Glasgowian
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2212 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
That's kinda what I'm thinking - Youtube is better (though it seems like I get more views on odd stuff like gluing fake Armani fabric to a bass than for actual songs), but putting stuff on Soundcloud as well is still better than Youtube alone.ksandvik wrote:Frankly speaking YouTube is better for marketing just now. But you get 3 hours of free space for fun projects.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I started off talking and talking too much about it, and got tired.
But I'm using youtube for sharing music pretty much exclusively. I know with a 1080 pixels vertical product that youtube makes a 192kbps audio stream, and that sounds assuredly better than what Soundcloud is doing with my audio. I never really embraced SC, it just doesn't appeal to me in the visuals and interface of it, kind of too much trouble for what it's worth.
But I'm using youtube for sharing music pretty much exclusively. I know with a 1080 pixels vertical product that youtube makes a 192kbps audio stream, and that sounds assuredly better than what Soundcloud is doing with my audio. I never really embraced SC, it just doesn't appeal to me in the visuals and interface of it, kind of too much trouble for what it's worth.
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
Regarding the look of the SC player, it appears at a glance that it is entirely possible to either take their HTML5 javascript code and modify it, or write your own nearly from scratch with the documentation provided for the web api.
help.soundcloud.com Can I make my own SoundCloud player?
edit: Okay I can't actually find any documentation for the API. This is not provided by them at all and what they describe as "hacks" ... I describe as editing parameters passed to the function.
None-the-less, real hacks of their code are possible if you use the HTML5 player and it is looking as if flash will be seen only rarely online in the very near future thanks to efforts of google/youtube and others. Exactly how reliable a hacked version may be however is questionable of course. The advantage of the way they request the code by passing parameters to a CGI applet (php or whatever it may be) is that the embedded code remains in a highly compatible/portable format such that modifications can be made and rolled out to every website on the planet all at once.
Ultimately though if you bother to use the debugger in your browser you can just look at the code they're using and modify it yourself. It may not work tomorrow if they change the interfaces and you may need to write something a bit complicated to grab the signatures spit out by the CGI applet before your own code can load/play the sound, but it should be possible to do so.
edit2: They seem to describe some practical ways to do basic parts of this here:
https://developers.soundcloud.com/
https://developers.soundcloud.com/docs/api/html5-widget
https://w.soundcloud.com/player/api_playground.html
I agree that the standard one is really awful, they seem to be using a non-linear RMS in dB. So not only is it dB, but also seems to be log on top of that, so log-log and RMS rather than peak. I've always found that peak is far more informative when you want to see the general levels of a track and RMS graphs are only useful at high resolution while mixing/editing, if ever. A log-log RMS graph is just completely useless. I've always made the assumption that they did this because the graph is shaded in as a cursor, rather than redrawing the cursor position on top of another more practical graph. So, they make it look like a solid rectangle because what they wanted was a solid rectangle.
It's dumb I agree, but I can't complain much without asking myself why I won't simply write my own version. The peak information is probably provided by the server and so perhaps we're stuck with RMS, but we could always reverse the log before displaying the graph.
help.soundcloud.com Can I make my own SoundCloud player?
edit: Okay I can't actually find any documentation for the API. This is not provided by them at all and what they describe as "hacks" ... I describe as editing parameters passed to the function.
None-the-less, real hacks of their code are possible if you use the HTML5 player and it is looking as if flash will be seen only rarely online in the very near future thanks to efforts of google/youtube and others. Exactly how reliable a hacked version may be however is questionable of course. The advantage of the way they request the code by passing parameters to a CGI applet (php or whatever it may be) is that the embedded code remains in a highly compatible/portable format such that modifications can be made and rolled out to every website on the planet all at once.
Ultimately though if you bother to use the debugger in your browser you can just look at the code they're using and modify it yourself. It may not work tomorrow if they change the interfaces and you may need to write something a bit complicated to grab the signatures spit out by the CGI applet before your own code can load/play the sound, but it should be possible to do so.
edit2: They seem to describe some practical ways to do basic parts of this here:
https://developers.soundcloud.com/
https://developers.soundcloud.com/docs/api/html5-widget
https://w.soundcloud.com/player/api_playground.html
I agree that the standard one is really awful, they seem to be using a non-linear RMS in dB. So not only is it dB, but also seems to be log on top of that, so log-log and RMS rather than peak. I've always found that peak is far more informative when you want to see the general levels of a track and RMS graphs are only useful at high resolution while mixing/editing, if ever. A log-log RMS graph is just completely useless. I've always made the assumption that they did this because the graph is shaded in as a cursor, rather than redrawing the cursor position on top of another more practical graph. So, they make it look like a solid rectangle because what they wanted was a solid rectangle.
It's dumb I agree, but I can't complain much without asking myself why I won't simply write my own version. The peak information is probably provided by the server and so perhaps we're stuck with RMS, but we could always reverse the log before displaying the graph.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2212 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
So, thanks for the advice, I registered and made a couple of those classic Soundcloud Sausages. https://soundcloud.com/krowochron if anybody's curious.