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V0RT3X wrote:
BBFG# wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:switch to dongle protection.
Hopefully it won't hurt your profits too badly, we need U-he around in 2030.
If you're forced to go dongle, please use eLicense and not PACE!
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Oh my, both terrible (imho of course).
Anyway, I try not to be a dongle-drama-queen, despite having a strong opinion on the matter. So I just hope that U-He wil manage to re-enforce their current protection scheme.
Sadly, cracks seem to be a fact of life, still very sorry to hear about it. Don't let it get you down, good service and good products make that you will prevail. :)

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Please, please, no dongles. One of the reasons I chose u-he products in the first place was because there's no dongle protection. I use mainstage for touring and the last thing I need is to have to worry about dongles. I'm fine with them at home or in the studio, but not on the road where losing a small piece of plastic could literally be a show stopper.

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I think Urs hates dongles too, they'll never go dongle-based.

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:lol:

Isn't it funny how people online always expect the worst, and beg for it not to happen, when something like this is coming up. :)

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scoplunk wrote:Please, please, no dongles. One of the reasons I chose u-he products in the first place was because there's no dongle protection. I use mainstage for touring and the last thing I need is to have to worry about dongles. I'm fine with them at home or in the studio, but not on the road where losing a small piece of plastic could literally be a show stopper.
+100

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scoplunk wrote:Please, please, no dongles. One of the reasons I chose u-he products in the first place was because there's no dongle protection. I use mainstage for touring and the last thing I need is to have to worry about dongles. I'm fine with them at home or in the studio, but not on the road where losing a small piece of plastic could literally be a show stopper.

You can use E-licencer which requires no piece of plastic to use for lots of software.
:borg:

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Yeah but you can't transfer it to another computer.... Beyond annoying.

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You can, but then you have to use the dongle naturally.


(You can also use iLok protection without the dongle, computer authorization mode, just like e-Licenser.)

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As long as i can authorize offline, my music computer doesnt know what the internet is.

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I personally have no problems with dongles. Received mine a few weeks ago and it works perfect. Simple, easy to understand and necessary.

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V0RT3X wrote:switch to dongle protection.

Hopefully it won't hurt your profits too badly, we need U-he around in 2030.
no no no no no no no no no no no no... worst suggestion of all time!!!!!!! :dog: :x :cry: :o :( :help: :?

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Not a u-he customer, but the sheer thought that u-he would go dongle now is pretty ridiculous IMO. Why would anyone work out a complex and working copy protection, just to scratch it when things go a little bad maybe, and then opt for the copy protection their main target audience (at least those online...) would like to see the least. Come on peeps, this is much too hysteric. Everything Urs said was they won't work on freebies in the next time because they "can't afford that luxury", which is fair enough.

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Until a few year ago, the game industry was also on the quest for the ultimate copy protection mechanism. It took a long time for them to realize that most of these DRMs were actually harmful to sales, because it made life harder for legitimate customers. And since no DRM is uncrackable, the more restrictive the DRM is, the more incentive there is to crack it.

The only successful DRM (for PC games) is Steam (Valve's online store), because instead of restrictions, it came bundled with a few useful features for customers.

IMHO, a good way for U-He to respond to piracy would be to grant access to PatchLib only to accounts that own the corresponding synth. A further step would be to include access to PatchLib directly in the synth, with a good tagging mechanism for discoverability. And another step (probably not feasible for a small company like U-He) would be to transform PatchLib into an online store for presets, making it easy for sound designers to sell their creation in a secure way.

This could also include other resources, such as video tutorials, or an online chat for some kind of synth-specific community support. Another idea would be to provide cloud storage for user presets. And I'm sure there's many more better ideas to be found.

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a good way for U-He to respond to piracy would be to grant access to PatchLib only to accounts that own the corresponding synth. A further step would be to include access to PatchLib directly in the synth, with a good tagging mechanism for discoverability. And another step (probably not feasible for a small company like U-He) would be to transform PatchLib into an online store for presets, making it easy for sound designers to sell their creation in a secure way
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('probably not feasible for a small company' - Big Tick, afaik, a one man band, was aiming to offer a secure online soundset shop with Zen. It failed to take off. I reckon u-he could make a better fist of it.)

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Good to see that everybody here is a straight forward business manager and exactly knows what to do and how to do.

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