The long DIVA thread

[hakey]

From SOS's Minimonsta review:

the Minimoog's contours generators exhibit a quirk that contributes greatly to the character of the instrument: the envelopes are reinitialised from the points to which they have dropped during the previous Release. Consequently, successive contours 'climb' (as shown in the right-hand diagram over the page), so you can use keyboard technique to make the sound bright or softer, or louder or quieter, as you wish; a critical element in the character of the instrument.



I can't replicate this behaviour using Diva's ADS envelopes, am I doing something wrong?

[Urs]

From SOS's Minimonsta review:

the Minimoog's contours generators exhibit a quirk that contributes greatly to the character of the instrument: the envelopes are reinitialised from the points to which they have dropped during the previous Release. Consequently, successive contours 'climb' (as shown in the right-hand diagram over the page), so you can use keyboard technique to make the sound bright or softer, or louder or quieter, as you wish; a critical element in the character of the instrument.



I can't replicate this behaviour using Diva's ADS envelopes, am I doing something wrong?

This is only true for the Mod envelope, where we have modelled this behaviour accordingly

[Bronto Scorpio]

Edit: Urs was faster

Cheers
Dennis

[Urs]

And actually, this is slightly wrong anyway... the Attack peak goes up higher, that's true, but Sustain stays the same level...

[hakey]

This is only true for the Mod envelope, where we have modelled this behaviour accordingly

I must be doing something wrong then, or perhaps it's very subtle?

[Mogular]

Modelled really well too. Quite a wonderful experience the first time I realised this was happening.

[Urs]

This is only true for the Mod envelope, where we have modelled this behaviour accordingly

I must be doing something wrong then, or perhaps it's very subtle?

You're right... it got lost...

We'll have it back in the next beta!

[hakey]

We'll have it back in the next beta!

[Urs]

Ok, we've just verified it:

- it's only on the Mod envelope
- it only affect the Attack peak
- it falls back onto the normal sustain
- it only occurrs on short Attack times

That's how it'll be in Diva!

Urs

[Echoes in the Attic]

Hey Urs, any chance of the ring mod getting into the Eco Osc from the MS-20 Osc?

Isn't it there?

(it still lacks a switch to use Osc1 square wave or whatever other wave is chosen in Osc1 - the original MS-20 hardware always uses Osc1 square, while the Korg software versions use whatever waveform is selected)

Really? Ugh. I've been away from music computer for a while and I don't remember it in there. But I usually used the other oscs so I guess I missed it. And I couldn't find a screenshot anywhere of the EcoOsc. By the way why is it "Eco"?

[Urs]

By the way why is it "Eco"?

Yes, it is. But it has a minuscle effect on performance, compared to the filter.

[hakey]

Will separate Tune mod for Eco's oscillators be implemented at some point in the future?

[Urs]

Will separate Tune mod for Eco's oscillators be implemented at some point in the future?

Maybe.

Today is Clemens' last day in the office before his well deserved x-mas vacation, so we're just hunting down some final issues.

We won't have time for feature additions in the remaining 5 hours... and I'm not sure if I understand his code well enough to add anything.

And of course, we still want to release before x-mas... if at all possible...

[hakey]

Of course, I didn't mean for the initial release - just at some unspecified point in the future (and it would be useful for replicating MS20 dynamic ring mod).

[Urs]

Of course, I didn't mean for the initial release - just at some unspecified point in the future (and it would be useful for replicating MS20 dynamic ring mod).

Yeah, it's a mishap on our side