u-he update of almost everything August 2021

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triple cheese's gui is very nice :)
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Urs wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:33 pm
Biome_Digital wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:26 pm I can't find any modern tags in Diva and Repro, they seem to be the same???
This might refer to NKS maybe, where tags have changed. I do recall though that a lot of effort went into updating the tags to our latest standards set in Zebra and Hive.
The unshushable Coktor wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:31 pm Hi Biome_Digital, they've been "modernized" in the sense that they've been adjusted to reflect the current set that we also use in Hive 2 and Zebra 2. They're not 100% different but a few were replaced or renamed and other have been added that we feel were sorely missing. They're now much more consistent with what we use in all our other synths.

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OK guys, that would explain it then. Thanks.

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developers who left us last year, which is always a bit of a scary thing
I assume this was covid related? Hope things are well at u-he HQ!

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Erik_Lucas wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:07 pm
developers who left us last year, which is always a bit of a scary thing
I assume this was covid related? Hope things are well at u-he HQ!
All good. We've hired 3 new guys since and two more are starting this fall.

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ZebraCM looks nicer than Zebra2.
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v1o wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:34 am ZebraCM looks nicer than Zebra2.
Indeed. I can not wait to play with it.

And by the way... I also love "smaller" synths than complex synths.

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Can we still get the zebra cm updated version?

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surreal wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:40 pm Can we still get the zebra cm updated version?
I guess that will distributed by CM themselves, maybe the next mags studio download will have it?

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The latest 32 bit versions of Triple Cheese, Podolski and Protoverb crashed in Renoise. Anyone else have issues with the new 32 bit versions of these plugins?

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bharris22 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:02 pm The latest 32 bit versions of Triple Cheese, Podolski and Protoverb crashed in Renoise.
Mac, Windows or Linux? And which version of Renoise? VST2, VST3, or AU?
That QA guy from planet u-he.

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tasmaniandevil wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:32 pm
bharris22 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:02 pm The latest 32 bit versions of Triple Cheese, Podolski and Protoverb crashed in Renoise.
Mac, Windows or Linux? And which version of Renoise? VST2, VST3, or AU?
32 bit Windows, VST2.

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PieBerger wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:38 am
EnGee wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:36 am The new skin in Hive is great :) I hope that Hive gets more complex oscillators with all the folding, sync, fm, pm ...etc Maybe in version 3.0 ;)
Personally, I hope they leave Hive pretty much as is and just implement the aforementioned features in Zebra3 instead. Hive is awesome because it's not bloated with every option under the sun, just enough features, implemented in such a way to cover a broad range of sounds without choice overwhelm and or crap workflow.
I immensely agree. Hive is already bursting at the seams as-is haha. The line between cpu-friendly simplicity and flexibility can be such a fine one, but I think any future additions to Hive should be workflow-related and making simple things faster and complex things easier. Not necessarily adding more complexity for the sake of it. All those new modules should be reserved for Zebra3 :) .

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bharris22 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:58 pm 32 bit Windows, VST2.
The last available 32bit version of Renoise is 3.1.1. It seems they stopped supporting 32bit a long time ago, so I would not be too surprised if our plugins didn't work in such an old DAW.

But I installed this 3.1.1 version and all our current VST2 32bit plugins are working just fine.

I suspect it's simply an installation issue.
Please contact our support, so we can help you get this fixed.
https://u-he.com/support/#contact
That QA guy from planet u-he.

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Shiek927 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:58 am
PieBerger wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:38 am
EnGee wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:36 am The new skin in Hive is great :) I hope that Hive gets more complex oscillators with all the folding, sync, fm, pm ...etc Maybe in version 3.0 ;)
Personally, I hope they leave Hive pretty much as is and just implement the aforementioned features in Zebra3 instead. Hive is awesome because it's not bloated with every option under the sun, just enough features, implemented in such a way to cover a broad range of sounds without choice overwhelm and or crap workflow.
I immensely agree. Hive is already bursting at the seams as-is haha. The line between cpu-friendly simplicity and flexibility can be such a fine one, but I think any future additions to Hive should be workflow-related and making simple things faster and complex things easier. Not necessarily adding more complexity for the sake of it. All those new modules should be reserved for Zebra3 :) .
Well, IMO, it's not in the benefits of u-he to hold back the development in Hive and make things more advanced and complex. For me, there is no problem at all because I have all u-he synths (and more from other companies), however, for someone wants all in one power synth, it's strange to tell him/her that Hive can't do that (especially basic things like fm and sync between the 2 oscillators!), and it's better to buy Zebra!
Zebra and Bazille are great synths, but have deep learning curve in general, while Hive is oversimplified. The only balanced synth is Diva, but that is an emulation of several vintage analog synths.
The advantage of adding some advanced oscillators or/and phase/frequency modulations is that Hive is already has easy workflow, so it's faster to achieve complex sounds with that workflow if the tools available.
Yes, maybe making Hive more complex would make Zebra and Bazille not very needed, but why buy Hive and Bazille/Zebra when you need just one synth like Serum/Phase Plant/Vital?!
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.

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EnGee wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:13 am why buy Hive and Bazille/Zebra when you need just one synth like Serum/Phase Plant/Vital?!
Because they are very different, both in features and sound

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