Diva 1.1 Final (beta testing finished)

[mcnoone]

I'm getting popping sounds, where the sounds aren't using a lot of cpu, but the sounds will have a pop in and out (no audio) for barely a second.
Crashed Live8.2.7 once so far also. The audio drop outs are constant, with any patch I choose, and I can record them if needed.
Have a crash report as well.

[Urs]

I'm getting popping sounds, where the sounds aren't using a lot of cpu, but the sounds will have a pop in and out (no audio) for barely a second.
Crashed Live8.2.7 once so far also. The audio drop outs are constant, with any patch I choose, and I can record them if needed.
Have a crash report as well.

Of course, please send to support at u-he dot com

[iamyourfather]

Nice work Urs . I have the unreleased beta installed, just wondering if I need to delete it first or can I just install over the top of it ?

[Bronto Scorpio]

The new manual is really great by the way!

Cheers
Dennis

[phazedown]

delete-me

[Restless]

With my system this update works great when using one instance but not so much with multiple instances.

With one instance my i7-920 at 3.3Ghz plays a lot more voices in divine mode, but when using multiple instances some patches seem to break up with only one voice as soon as I raise the cut off frequency.

As well as that I also have one Cubase 6.5.1 project that crashes when playback starts and the windows application log mentions Diva as the cause.

The LED colour thing seems to have gained a mind of its own as well, but that's no big deal.

Oh, and MIDI Learn for the next/previous patch seems not to work, although I think that that has been mentioned.

I am using Windows 7 64 bit and Cubase 6.5.1 64 bit as well.

Can I send any infomration to anyone that may help with the beta testing?

[mcnoone]

I'm getting popping sounds, where the sounds aren't using a lot of cpu, but the sounds will have a pop in and out (no audio) for barely a second.
Crashed Live8.2.7 once so far also. The audio drop outs are constant, with any patch I choose, and I can record them if needed.
Have a crash report as well.

Of course, please send to support at u-he dot com

Okay. I sent 2 crash reports, as the crashes got worse, more frequent, and making the cpu level shoot up real high, before Live crashes.
I also included 2 Live reports as well, in case you can use them.
If you don't have Live, I can give you a second LiveLite license, that I don't use anymore. (I have 2)
I've only tested Diva 11b2 mac VST-in Live8.2.7 (maybe I should update now)
It's a mbp coreduo2
I only tried with multi-threading on.

I uninstalled every file associated with Diva, and will try a completely fresh install now, to see if it helps.

[Howard]

Are there plans to adjust the fine tune to 1:1cent ? Because it's still 0,5:1cent as of now.

I don't quite know what you mean - can't you get .01 steps?

[zerocrossing]

you can safely add AMD's newer processors to the supported cpus for multithreading.
my 3 year old PhenomII 955BE almost doubles the poly voices when multihreading is enabled.

Yep. We should do a little research here. Our only AMD-processor is a single core from 2004...

interesting the new transient mode feature (analog/dc reset /vcf reset), may be useful in shaping basses and percussive sounds even further...so can't wait to play around with that.

thanks for the update

Well, people have come to expect rather "uniform" transients from their digital synths. Thus we got a lot of request to do oscillator phase reset etc., which we can't properly do for various reasons (we won't rule the option out for future releases though)

But the main problem is this: Digital synths usually put voices to sleep while they're silent. This saves a lot of cpu and in cases such as Diva is even vital (you won't want 16 voices to run all the time...). So if a new note hits the synth, a voice gets woken up out of stand by and often faces a completely different set of conditions than it had before putting it to sleep. This may cause a voice to behave erratically for a few milliseconds until it "locks" to its new life span.

So now we're "massaging" a voice to prepare it for its new life once we resurrect it.

However, people pointed out that transients are still whacky e.g. when you play high notes and then low notes and vice versa. Thus, if a voice wakes up like, say, 3 or 5 octaves apart from where it left, it would still "click" differently on short attacks than if it played only a small interval. This is also true though for the analogue synths we draw inspiration from.

Thus we think we got the behavior right, but we see the point that for certain types of sound this isn't desirable. Hence the option to just zap a few capacitors (DC-killers) or the lowpass filter.

Zapping capacitors gives you a uniform click at the beginning of notes. Zapping filters makes it even more uniform, but also requires any self oscillation to build up from scratch. Zapping filters for drum sounds based on filter resonance is thus not a good idea.

Cheers,

Urs

Well, I think the sounds where this would make the most sense are monophonic anyway so maybe have this option only available in 1-2 voice modes so you wouldn't have to put voices to sleep. No?

[alphadelphi]

Will those improvements affect ACE in a not so long term?

Multicore, MIDI, yes.

The new feedback prediction algorithm may affect ACE if we ever manage to add a new filter module option to it.

I am not really interested in having something more (ACE is already fantastic), but i would like to see a performance improvement.

[3ee]

Finally I can use the VCF|Multimode and the Bite HPF without the CPU blowing up

I spoke too soon...

Well, that's that for the moment ...anyway, I have the other wonderful modules to play with! Been playing with Diva almost non-stop for the past few days.

[pdxindy]

I'm getting popping sounds, where the sounds aren't using a lot of cpu, but the sounds will have a pop in and out (no audio) for barely a second.
Crashed Live8.2.7 once so far also. The audio drop outs are constant, with any patch I choose, and I can record them if needed.
Have a crash report as well.

Of course, please send to support at u-he dot com

Okay. I sent 2 crash reports, as the crashes got worse, more frequent, and making the cpu level shoot up real high, before Live crashes.
I also included 2 Live reports as well, in case you can use them.
If you don't have Live, I can give you a second LiveLite license, that I don't use anymore. (I have 2)
I've only tested Diva 11b2 mac VST-in Live8.2.7 (maybe I should update now)
It's a mbp coreduo2
I only tried with multi-threading on.

I uninstalled every file associated with Diva, and will try a completely fresh install now, to see if it helps.

Do you get the crashing with the AU version?

[GruvSyco]

Very noticeable improvement on my 2011 13" Macbook Pro (i5). Ableton Live, AU. Makes me wish I'd bought a Quad Core though.

[Bathrobe]

Are there plans to adjust the fine tune to 1:1cent ? Because it's still 0,5:1cent as of now.

I don't quite know what you mean - can't you get .01 steps?

See this post for clarification:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 54#4877154

No 0.01 steps here on the finetune knob with Diva 1.1b, just 0.5 steps.

[zerocrossing]

First I want to say, WOW on the OSCS. Huge difference I think. They really bite nicely. Big improvement.

Second, I'm running Live 8.2.7 on a Core 2 Duo Quad with Vista 64 and it seems smooth sailing so far... except when I find CPU limits. I did notice some noise... then I realized I was still in demo mode. A serial number and all was good. I've had it running for a good couple of hours with no problems.