Arturia V Collection 6

[waltercruz]

May we call this a derailed thread?

kvr in a nutshell

[braj]

What knowledge? You have no knowledge at all

Oh for goodness sake, enough already. You don't agree, that's fine. Neither of you are going to change their views, so continuous posts on this are just creating more pointless noise that's distracting us from important moaning about upgrade pricing...

+1

[Frantz]

May we call this a derailed thread?

Yes.

[martinjuenke]

Derailed? Then bring it back on track!

Chattanooga Choo Choo!

[ghettosynth]

To get back to the point: HOW can you calculate the accuracy of an emulation mathematically?


I'd really like to know, because i wonder how you want to accomplish that. If you mean that you can judge how accurate the circuit modelling is to the real deal, then, yeah, there's surely a point to that, but, mathematically measuring something you have no idea about, code wise? How's that going to work?

Maybe i misunderstood you there, and that's not how you meant it. Not sure.

Yes, it was stated in context of refuting the universal claim of objectivity via statistical methods. As I said, some emulations can be shown mathematically to be more accurate than others, I did not say all, nor did I imply that I meant anything in specific. It was a refutation of the given statement, not a universal claim. Of course if we want to say something about a specific instance of an emulation, e.g., the 2600v, we either have to know something about its model, or we have to measure it to determine where its model fails. However, it's not unreasonable to assume, based on several factors, that we can infer some details of the modeling techniques used.

[wagtunes]

Derailed? Then bring it back on track!

I'll try. Everything else aside, I have listened to all the new stuff in V6. I'm really very impressed with how much work has gone into it.

The DX7 goes well beyond the original, that I never really liked all that much. While it may not sound 100% the same, I'm not so sure that's a bad thing.

The Easel is pretty much for people into West Coast Synthesis. It won't appeal to a lot of folks. I think it's very cool.

The Fairlight, while I never owned the original, also seems like it's really unique. Kind of like when they came out with Synclavier V, which is one of my favorite Arturia soft synths. I'm sure this recent emulation, even if not a 100% dead on ringer for the original, will make me very happy when I get it.

The Clavinet is a Clavinet. What can you say. I liked the sound at the time but it doesn't excite me as much as the other 3. But it does sound good.

I can only go by what I've heard on Youtube because I haven't downloaded the demos yet. But based on my past experience with Arturia, I have no doubt that I'd be just as happy with these additions as I was with the V5 update.

[martinjuenke]

Oh!
These deaf, dumb and blind kids:
sure play the mean pinball...

[wagtunes]

Oh!
These deaf, dumb and blind kids:
sure play the mean pinball...

I don't think there were any synths on that song.

[martinjuenke]

Oh!
These deaf, dumb and blind kids:
sure play the mean pinball...

I don't think there were any synths on that song.

No synths in that song, but kids in this thread...

[wagtunes]

Oh!
These deaf, dumb and blind kids:
sure play the mean pinball...

I don't think there were any synths on that song.

No synths in that song, but kids in this thread...

Yeah, but like The Who said, "The Kids Are Alright"

[Zipede]

Hey Arturia, I've found a fix for the high CPU issues.

If I run 1 instance of Buchla with the opening patch "volt-aged piano", I get a few pops and clicks, CPU runs around 35-50%. If I load the patch "pad me up", it's unplayable 50-60%.

If I load 4 instances of Buchla, all with the patch "volt-aged piano" playing simultaneously, there are zero clicks and CPU goes down to 30-35%

It's genius

My specs

Ableton 9 Live
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Intel Core i7 7700 @ 3.60GHz
RAM 16.0GB
Soundcard Roland Duo-capture EX

[electro]

Discuss the Clavinet V which sounds very good.

[wagtunes]

Discuss the Clavinet V which sounds very good.

You know, I had actually forgotten all about this in our discussions here, because it's not a synth, but I actually owned a Hohner Clavinet in the early 80s. I liked it but because it was really just one sound, I eventually sold it to get a synth that could make more than just one sound. But in retrospect, I probably should have hung onto it because nothing I owned since sounded quite like it.

I haven't really listened to the sound of it to compare it to the original so I can't comment on the Clavinet V itself but I'd have a hard time believing that it didn't sound good in its own right.

Thank Stevie Wonder and Superstition for my fascination with that instrument.

[jme-audio]

To get back to the point: HOW can you calculate the accuracy of an emulation mathematically?


I'd really like to know, because i wonder how you want to accomplish that. If you mean that you can judge how accurate the circuit modelling is to the real deal, then, yeah, there's surely a point to that, but, mathematically measuring something you have no idea about, code wise? How's that going to work?

Maybe i misunderstood you there, and that's not how you meant it. Not sure.

Yes, it was stated in context of refuting the universal claim of objectivity via statistical methods. As I said, some emulations can be shown mathematically to be more accurate than others, I did not say all, nor did I imply that I meant anything in specific. It was a refutation of the given statement, not a universal claim. Of course if we want to say something about a specific instance of an emulation, e.g., the 2600v, we either have to know something about its model, or we have to measure it to determine where its model fails. However, it's not unreasonable to assume, based on several factors, that we can infer some details of the modeling techniques used.

When you compare without measurements, just pure mathematically, then you just compare the emulation against another model. This says nothing about the real accuracy. You may match your model, but how the real hardware behaves is a completely different thing.

[braj]

Who here likes cake?