Ok let me say out front that I only had a few moments before work this morning to play with my new toy but I already have some quesitons and suggestions:
Is there a list anywhere of what samples are mapped to what keys? Its quite confusing when all you have to go on are general categories. Maybe a spreadsheet?
Failing that, could the categories have the type of instrument next to the name when you load them - I mean, I will no doubt in time learn what they are but it would be nice not to have to guess when I am loading a preset.
Maybe I have been spoiled by using Battery, but its much easier to organize your drums if you have some visual feedback. Even something like the Kontakt player model, with the keyboard at the bottom, would help me out. Seems that there are loops as well as hits, and it would be nice to know about this too.
Along this line, a feature that I would appreciate would be the ability to create my own sample sets - the same as being able to make custom drumsets as you can in other samplers. Also layering would be nice; I know I can just dump two different notes in my host programs sequencer, but being able to manipulate the samples in this way really would open things up.
Please don't take any of this the wrong way - I am quite happy with the samples, they are great, and I was able to hash up a killer beat in a few minutes, so its not like I regret my purchase. I just think you could make this thing even better for the end user.
thx
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 28 Aug, 2004
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- KVRian
- 799 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the feedback. About key-mapping and visual aid, it has been suggested by reviewers and a few users too, but that's a bit out of our capacity at the current stage - it'd take quite an amount of efforts to make that practically useful for the end users. It won't really help much if we merely pile up a big list of PinYin names(but no doubt that will impress the heck out of potential customers
). We do hope we'll address this more or less in the future nonetheless.
There are only a handful of loops/phrases in ChineeKong, and these loop-like samples are actually more like short phrases - I believe you'll find it extremely useful when you actually use them in a composition.
As for the ability to manipulate samples, it's not possible to go beyond the current scope, since we do not plan to open up the raw samples. That might change in the future if we decide to provide some specialized, professional licensing service.
Thanks for the feedback. About key-mapping and visual aid, it has been suggested by reviewers and a few users too, but that's a bit out of our capacity at the current stage - it'd take quite an amount of efforts to make that practically useful for the end users. It won't really help much if we merely pile up a big list of PinYin names(but no doubt that will impress the heck out of potential customers
). We do hope we'll address this more or less in the future nonetheless.There are only a handful of loops/phrases in ChineeKong, and these loop-like samples are actually more like short phrases - I believe you'll find it extremely useful when you actually use them in a composition.
As for the ability to manipulate samples, it's not possible to go beyond the current scope, since we do not plan to open up the raw samples. That might change in the future if we decide to provide some specialized, professional licensing service.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 42 posts since 28 Aug, 2004
OK, well it is what it is then. Maybe you could give me an idea of how the samples are placed - yes, I can listen to them, but are say the loops and phrases always put on the same group of keys? Do the lower pitch samples reside on the lower keys, or something like that?
Yeah, PinYin, sure! But what about gong1, gong2, cymbal1,cymbal2......
What samples I have heard are just stunning, and yes, the loops and phrases are quite inspiring, I am going to get a ton of use out of this.
thx and by the way, its Dana, not Robert. Funny tho, that was my late Fathers name, odd you should pick that...
thx again for the speedy reply, much appreciated.
Yeah, PinYin, sure! But what about gong1, gong2, cymbal1,cymbal2......
What samples I have heard are just stunning, and yes, the loops and phrases are quite inspiring, I am going to get a ton of use out of this.
thx and by the way, its Dana, not Robert. Funny tho, that was my late Fathers name, odd you should pick that...
thx again for the speedy reply, much appreciated.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Well, the fact is that the PinYin is so much more specific as to what kind of Chinese instrument you're dealing with. If you say "gong" or "cymbal"... well, that's too general. If you take a World Music class (or just listen and study a little Chinese music) you learn the names of these instruments, and then it's no problem dealing with the PinYin.woodamand wrote: Yeah, PinYin, sure! But what about gong1, gong2, cymbal1,cymbal2......
Or you can just look the instrument names up on Google.
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- KVRian
- 799 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
My apologies, I thought you were another guy who actually purchased right after you...woodamand wrote: thx and by the way, its Dana, not Robert. Funny tho, that was my late Fathers name, odd you should pick that...
...except sometimes there can be some words sharing the same PinYin...like "笛子(flute)" and "弟子(pupil)"Gregjazz wrote:Well, the fact is that the PinYin is so much more specific as to what kind of Chinese instrument you're dealing with
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
sosayweall wrote: ...except sometimes there can be some words sharing the same PinYin...like "笛子(flute)" and "弟子(pupil)"