IDEA: The Muse Controller

[tconrardy]

Hi Musers

heres an idea, which you may have thought of, but it might be to your advabtage to try to find some controller manufactures to go in with you on this.

The Muse Controller.

Basically:

19 knobs, 16 and 3
16 switches ( for muting)

5 switches to go between banks

bank 1: Volume for each channel
bank 2: Pan for each channel
bank4: CC's 16-33 ( to control softsynths)
bank5 CC's 33-48 ( more control for softsynths)

The 16 swithes are used for real time muting

The other 3 knobs are for the master volume and the 2 effect busses.

ADD a MIDI keyboard controller.

basically, I found that my EMU Command Station fit the bill, as it has all the above( exept muting)




I can switch live for volume and panning and also control softsynths with the CC's 16-33. I usually do:

first 4: Filter parameters( Cuttoff, Q, Env and LFO to filter
next 4: adsr for filter
next 4: adsr for amp
next 4: Osc parameters, or whatever else i want: glide, lfo rate, ect.

But the command station is not made anymore, and also is a synth and sequencer in it's own right. However as a controller for receptor, it really works!!I wonder if EMU would give permission to use just the guts of it?

I think a dedicated controller for the receptor would make it a real plus package. It really opens up the whole unit to have all these controls at your fingertips. I am sure you could ask any of the controller deallers and go in with them to make a dedicated controller.

Just an idea!! what do you musers think??

Tim

[Watto]

Oh, man - NOW you're talking! I was going to post this concept (especially the all in one keyboard controller idea) a little while ago, but, although the Muse boys are fantastic to deal with, they believe so passionately in their product that they don't seem to dig other ideas over much... oh, there I go being facetious again

Anyway, it'd be great to be able to do that - c'mon Musers!!

[Watto]

Hey Tim, while I may or may not have your attention - do you have any idea why a purpose built hardware keyboard has no troubles playing nice piano samples, while Receptor struggles? That's the main reason Receptor gives me the irrits, and I can't work out why it doesn't perform flawlessly. Maybe hardware keyboards use less samples, but edit the sounds to work well?

Anyway, I'm just MUSEing...

[DanTimis]

It's a great idea.

Hardware takes a very long time to design and manufacture. So even if we started right away to do something like this it still would be a fairly long time until we would have something to show.

[tconrardy]

Hey Tim, while I may or may not have your attention - do you have any idea why a purpose built hardware keyboard has no troubles playing nice piano samples, while Receptor struggles? That's the main reason Receptor gives me the irrits, and I can't work out why it doesn't perform flawlessly. Maybe hardware keyboards use less samples, but edit the sounds to work well?

Anyway, I'm just MUSEing...

heh?? My wusik station piano's perform perfectly..what plugin are you talking about?

Tim

[Watto]

Using Kompakt for them. Maybe it's finally time to get Wusik, eh? You can play it with full chords, lots of sustain, etc, no probs?

S.

[mike2442]

never mind wusik, where is kontakt ?

[tconrardy]

It's a great idea.

Hardware takes a very long time to design and manufacture. So even if we started right away to do something like this it still would be a fairly long time until we would have something to show.

I was thinking of having an existing known knob box/controller manufacturer like Evolution, ect make it for you. Just give them the specs. Of course it could be used with any other software setup as well, but specifically centered on Receptor and it's parameters.It would be good business for both of you.

Now I wonder if theres already a knob box/controller that can fit the bill? The MP7 does not really count as it's a full blown synth..around 700.00 worth.

anybody else use knob boxes/ ect on receptor?

[DanTimis]

Yes, the easiest would be if there is already a box that would work, or that would need just a few small changes.

[Scot Solida]

[quote="tconrardy
anybody else use knob boxes/ ect on receptor?[/quote]

Sure do. Motor Mix and the Nord G2. They work great with Receptor. I also have an old Niche 16 channel MIDI mixer that would probably work. Haven't tried that one, though. Oh, and an...um...what was that thing? Uc33 or something? Edirol? I have one in the closet somewhere. I should try it (but it's PLASTIC, man! I don't like plastic doodads).

[tconrardy]

Yes, the easiest would be if there is already a box that would work, or that would need just a few small changes.

Whats this box?





Just put the Muse name on it

[Scot Solida]

Yes, the easiest would be if there is already a box that would work, or that would need just a few small changes.

Whats this box?





Just put the Muse name on it

That's one of those UC-33 box that I said I have in my closet...it's very cheap...plastic case, stiff knobs, rough sliders. It works, but...well...like I said, it's in the closet.

[Robert Karasek]

in this context: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101292

[tconrardy]

in this context: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=101292

You mean this?




Looks like it would be perfect for receptor.

The only thing is that you would have to program it for vol /pan for each channel on receptor