"Communication" - Shreddage 2 Prog Metal

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KVRist
224 posts since 3 Oct, 2012 from VA, USA

Post Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:19 pm

Been a little while since I posted in here, but after much distraction I finished up this new track.

https://soundcloud.com/audiosupernova/communication

KVRian
835 posts since 28 Jan, 2008

Post Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:57 pm

Since you left some feedback on mine, I'll leave some on your's. :)

I like what I hear, I really like the use of the keys here, that always wins me over in metal. There's one thing I've noticed with your tracks... definitely don't start a note (or a succession of notes) with vibrato. It sounds too unnatural, in my opinion. But if you weren't going for realism, I understand that too.

KVRist

Topic Starter

224 posts since 3 Oct, 2012 from VA, USA

Post Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:39 pm

You'll have to let me know what section you're referring to with the vibrato. Thanks for the feedback.

KVRian
835 posts since 28 Jan, 2008

Post Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:23 pm

Well for example, the section start at exactly 23 seconds....it sounds like the vibrato is applied either starting the beginning of the note or too soon after the start of the note. Same thing with 2:31. It sounds like you have a staccato going....but then the next sustain sounds like either vibrato at the start of the note or it's applied too soon. (It's really hard to tell, I'm sorry).

In same cases, a simple pitch bend rather than vibrato does wonders, especially for shorter notes, and that's where S2 shines. The bends in S2 sound much more realistic than any other guitar VST.

Another thing I like in your tracks is the creativity, especially when it's enough to keep the track interesting for 5-6 minutes. For some reason, I've been struggling with coming up with creative riffs for the past year or so. It's amazing because I can think up some awesome sounding riffs in my mind, but then when I sit down at my controller to record with Shreddage 2, KAPUT! It's crap that winds up getting recorded. This is a reason I want to learn to play a real guitar, which is something I've wanted to do for years, actually. I have a basic understanding of theory, but I think I could learn more about it. I think that'd be helpful.

Maybe I need to take a break, I don't know. lol

KVRist

Topic Starter

224 posts since 3 Oct, 2012 from VA, USA

Post Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:30 pm

Ah, thanks. I'll have to do a close listen again, see if it's something that bothers me or not. Sometimes I don't hear things till pointed out, then they drive me crazy till I fix them ;)

I definitely feel your pain when it comes to sitting down in the studio and blanking on all your thought up riffs. Happens all the time. I don't know how much musical training plays into things, but I've been playing the piano for over 20 years, drums for the last 15, and picked up guitar in the last 2 years. I've had a lot of musical training, both professional and self taught studies, and having a good educational foundation has certainly made it a bit easier. I've played in several bands with friends, and written probably hundreds of songs over the last decade or so (only in the last 3 years working in midi). Knowing various chord progressions, scales, and some music theory definitely helps more than I ever thought it would. Most guitar solos are guys just running up down some scales with varying levels of precision and fluff. Anyway, it's not just some skill that you're born with like some people might want you to believe, it takes practice and lots of frustration, but you're really off to a great start. You've already got a pretty awesome foundation to build off of with some of your work. Just keep plugging away and you'll continue to make great stuff. I wouldn't bother with the break really, practice only makes better, and really that's all I've been doing all these years (it helps to be really stubborn lol).

Don't give up man!

KVRist
340 posts since 16 Oct, 2011

Post Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:09 pm

Very good track. I wish I was as good at drums as you were. Do you play the drums live or sequence them?

KVRist

Topic Starter

224 posts since 3 Oct, 2012 from VA, USA

Post Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:49 pm

Thanks! I've done a little bit of both. This one was all programed though. I've gotten lazier and lazier recently, and the Roland kit is getting lonely. Maybe I'll have to record my next one live now that you mention it.

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