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hellishvictor · Post by **hellishvictor** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:54 pm

Hi everybody

On Ableton Live, I'd assigned a midi CC to the tempo expecting to work with its range of 127 values.
Min: 20
Max: 107
Mode: Absolute

The thing is that if I set the CC to 106, it gives me 106.31 bpm.
How I get rid of the extra two digits and obtain a plain 106.00?

Cheers

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:36 pm

Probably because 20 to 107 scales different from whatever BPM range you set.
Like Fahrenheit to Celsius, 106 Fahrenheit is (around) 41.11 Celsius.
Try setting from 20 to 147.

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:38 pm

Because 20 to 147 are 128 values, which is the same as most MIDI CC.

hellishvictor · Post by **hellishvictor** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:56 pm

Yeah, it was something so simple haha thanx pottering for the quick reply!

The thing now is find out a way to assign another CC to the same parameter (tempo) so I can set from 147 to 274.
Any ideas?

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:07 am

I don't think it is possible to assign 2 CCs to the same Live parameter.
If you set from 20 to 274 it will change the BPM by 2 each value, maybe it is usable?

You know you can use the Scenes name to set BPM/tempo?
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/sessi ... and-scenes

hellishvictor · Post by **hellishvictor** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:37 pm

That's exactly what I did. And also, added another CC to the .00 parameter. It gives a +2.56 value range, so with that is almost possible make any fine adjustment. I could prefer to have 2.54 or 1.27, but no Min or Max parameters for this one.

I hope that in a future update this can be changed, because that only one CC can be assigned to a parameter (it should be like the Macros thing), and not allow the user modify manually the MIDI maps, are the only limitations I have found on Live so far. On Samplitude, for example, it can be done editing a .cpsxml file with the Notepad2 for modify a "Learn Hardware Controller" assignment.
However, I found this M4L device that allow to assign several CC to the same parameter, Mapulator, but does not work with the 9 version of Live.

I'll check it out the link. Thanks for your help!

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:52 pm

Other options for changing tempo are using automation, Dummy Clips (clips w/ automation or CC, but no Audio or notes) and ClyphX, a remote script system that allows a lot of automation and interesting stuff.

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:56 pm

Oh, and maybe Ableton Link or even virtual MIDI cables like loopmidi/loopbe (IAC on Mac), maybe you can use some small app and send BPM/tempo through those?

hellishvictor · Post by **hellishvictor** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:32 pm

ClyphX seems very interesting.
Anyway, this CC method for control the tempo cover my needs so far.

Thanks again for share, man

Winstontaneous · Post by **Winstontaneous** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:16 pm

pottering wrote:Because 20 to 147 are 128 values, which is the same as most MIDI CC.

Hah, smart...

Assigning CCs to change tempo on Ableton Live