Poll: A little GUI question for MTurboReverb
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- KVRAF
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- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hi folks, so this is how most MTurboReverbs active presets look like :
It's cluttered with the little lock buttons... Now the question is, do we really need all of that to be lockable? I mean, who would lock say dampening or size, when each active preset sounds very different anyways?You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- KVRian
- 1071 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Yeah my first thought on seeing Turbo reverb was that all the lock buttons felt unnecessary and cluttered the controls. Like everything, I got used to it, but I think it would look more welcoming as an easy screen with most removed. Typically I'll just lock wet dry when testing presets.
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- KVRian
- 896 posts since 2 May, 2015
...would agree on the "clutter"...otoh, since the underlying logic/code is already in place, consider making the knobs "push down to lock/unlock" via cntrl+left button along with placing/removing an "L" on the button cap...or some such thing...I have used the lock feature occasionally...hth.../s~
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- KVRian
- 975 posts since 10 Jan, 2007 from London
Great idea..options without clutter.steve2KVR wrote:...would agree on the "clutter"...otoh, since the underlying logic/code is already in place, consider making the knobs "push down to lock/unlock" via cntrl+left button along with placing/removing an "L" on the button cap...or some such thing...I have used the lock feature occasionally...hth.../s~
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1702 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
I think the basic controls are enough. Wet/dry lock is very useful. Length can be in some cases and ER/LR might be too sometimes. The other controls I don't think I'd ever lock, but that is of course just my personal opinion.
As other people said if it's possible to make the lock take up less space of course use it on everything. Have locked controls with a red ring around them or something.
As other people said if it's possible to make the lock take up less space of course use it on everything. Have locked controls with a red ring around them or something.
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- KVRian
- 1275 posts since 23 Sep, 2008 from Germany
+1 for a keyboard shortcut and a different look between locked and unlocked, like chandlerhimself idea.
Maybe the lock symbol on the button or greyed out.
And changing this behaviour for the whole melda line.
Maybe the lock symbol on the button or greyed out.
And changing this behaviour for the whole melda line.
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- KVRAF
- 2596 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
It honestly looks silly with all those locks on the easy screen. I think if people need to lock more than just the main Dry/Wet, ER/LR and Length, then it reasonable to open the edit screen for this.
I don't like the idea of locking parameters using a keyboard shortcut, as it is not easy enough for beginners. How will they know the shortcut? The easy screen needs to be self explanatory without having to dig into a manual. The locks as they are now are easier to understand.
I don't like the idea of locking parameters using a keyboard shortcut, as it is not easy enough for beginners. How will they know the shortcut? The easy screen needs to be self explanatory without having to dig into a manual. The locks as they are now are easier to understand.
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- KVRist
- 205 posts since 17 Mar, 2013
I say keep all the locks.
Just as a side note, there's no edit screen in the non MB version of TurboReverb which is the one included in the mastering bundle.jmg8 wrote:then it reasonable to open the edit screen for this.
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- KVRAF
- 2596 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
Check again. There is an edit screen for me on the non MB version.pone wrote:I say keep all the locks.
Just as a side note, there's no edit screen in the non MB version of TurboReverb which is the one included in the mastering bundle.jmg8 wrote:then it reasonable to open the edit screen for this.
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- KVRAF
- 10310 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Vojtech knows my thoughts very well But here goes:
-- the Easy screen looks very cluttered with them,
-- most of the time I would not use them,
-- they change the width of the parameter labels,
-- the positioning is sub-optimal (especially for the knobs, when I would expect them to be next to the knob, not the knob label).
For me, they would only be used when switching between Active Presets and I wanted to keep some of the parameter settings. That is < 1% of the time.
Just for comparison:
>>> http://i.imgur.com/p8DmKsa.png
I was thinking of some way of displaying the padlocks for those parameters marked as 'lockable' only when they are needed (during Active Preset browsing or randomization). Perhaps change that [Edit] button, above the Active Presets to [Locks], to display / hide the padlocks?
So, my vote is keep them all, but hide them until needed.
-- the Easy screen looks very cluttered with them,
-- most of the time I would not use them,
-- they change the width of the parameter labels,
-- the positioning is sub-optimal (especially for the knobs, when I would expect them to be next to the knob, not the knob label).
For me, they would only be used when switching between Active Presets and I wanted to keep some of the parameter settings. That is < 1% of the time.
Just for comparison:
>>> http://i.imgur.com/p8DmKsa.png
I was thinking of some way of displaying the padlocks for those parameters marked as 'lockable' only when they are needed (during Active Preset browsing or randomization). Perhaps change that [Edit] button, above the Active Presets to [Locks], to display / hide the padlocks?
So, my vote is keep them all, but hide them until needed.
Last edited by DarkStar on Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 266 posts since 18 Oct, 2005
1. Remove the small locks - yes they do clutter the screen
2. Right click on knob (or short-cut) to lock, knob changes to locked state (some sort of grayed out or red ring, as chandler suggests).
3. Double click (or right-click / shortcut) to un-lock.
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2. Right click on knob (or short-cut) to lock, knob changes to locked state (some sort of grayed out or red ring, as chandler suggests).
3. Double click (or right-click / shortcut) to un-lock.
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- KVRAF
- 2596 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
Agree with darkstar.
There is no need for 2 edit buttons. Turn the one above the active presets list into a show/hide locks button.
There is no need for 2 edit buttons. Turn the one above the active presets list into a show/hide locks button.
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 8 May, 2015
How about making them look like LED buttons of hardware:
no lock sign, just a button that's slightly darker than the surrounding surface, and when pressed make them look like (for example) green led buttons, maybe spotting a lock sign only when pressed. Looks sexier for sure than those lock signs
And you can keep the size and form actually. Just an idea.
no lock sign, just a button that's slightly darker than the surrounding surface, and when pressed make them look like (for example) green led buttons, maybe spotting a lock sign only when pressed. Looks sexier for sure than those lock signs
And you can keep the size and form actually. Just an idea.
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