McDSP 6050 on sale
- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 4 May, 2008 from West London Depot
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- KVRist
- 205 posts since 24 Sep, 2019
AND to participate at least at 50 threads which compare them to any existing compressor [or compressors that are in the ballpark]
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- KVRAF
- 4712 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Question: Are the separate 6020 Ultimate EQ and 6030 Ultimate Compressor plugins just their respective modules taken out of this channel strip?
I own the 6030 and I'm considering getting the 6020 EQs... but maybe I should have just bought 6050 to begin with?
I own the 6030 and I'm considering getting the 6020 EQs... but maybe I should have just bought 6050 to begin with?
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- KVRian
- 1392 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA
Not completely 100%, but you could consider the 6050 as [(6020+6030)+even better]MogwaiBoy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:50 pm Question: Are the separate 6020 Ultimate EQ and 6030 Ultimate Compressor plugins just their respective modules taken out of this channel strip?
I own the 6030 and I'm considering getting the 6020 EQs... but maybe I should have just bought 6050 to begin with?
It does not hurt to have the 6020 and 6030 as well.
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- Banned
- 85 posts since 25 Jul, 2019
Any must have McDSP plugs beside 6050, 6060, or Filterbank??
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- KVRAF
- 2152 posts since 24 Jul, 2017
Additional question: What about the Futzbox?
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
Futzbox is "ok" but it's not speakerphone. I've got the RE and I know I got it on sale.
- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
The 8-band limiter is pretty nice sounding and versatile. I like their noise suppresion plugin, it works pretty well. I also like their multi-band compressors, sonically and workflow. I can't recall the product names at the moment.
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- KVRist
- 205 posts since 24 Sep, 2019
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- 85 posts since 25 Jul, 2019
Anyone know the difference between the ML-8000 and the ML-4000?? Isn't the 8000 an upgraded 4000???
- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Dude, honestly... read the product pages. The answers are there...Symphony Sid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:56 pm Anyone know the difference between the ML-8000 and the ML-4000?? Isn't the 8000 an upgraded 4000???
https://www.mcdsp.com/plugin-index/ml8000/
https://www.mcdsp.com/plugin-index/ml4000/
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- 85 posts since 25 Jul, 2019
Thanks for the heads up. Sorry to be an annoyance but other than 4 more bands on the 8000 vs the 4000 and the 8000 being newer the difference is not clear to me. If I buy the 8000 why would I need the 4000??plexuss wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:36 pmDude, honestly... read the product pages. The answers are there...Symphony Sid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:56 pm Anyone know the difference between the ML-8000 and the ML-4000?? Isn't the 8000 an upgraded 4000???
https://www.mcdsp.com/plugin-index/ml8000/
https://www.mcdsp.com/plugin-index/ml4000/
- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
You raise a good point: just because there is product info it doesn't mean you have all the info necessary to understand what each product is for and why one ove the other or both. On the surface they look very similar and I see how that can be confusing. The answer is right there, though: 8 band limter vs 4 band dynamics. This is the primary difference. It's actually quite a huge difference. Why? Because 8 bands gives you 2x the spectral contol over the audio - with 8 bands you can have more bands of dynamics control. You'd use this over 4 band when you need more than 4 bands. You might be surprised at how much more control you have with 8 bands and there are certain mixing and mastering duties that would benefit from 8 bands. That's the primary reason of one over the other. The ML4000 has 4 limter bands but also has 4 bands of other types of dynamics (expander, gate etc). This can also be useful for certain things. I can't really get into the possible examples of why you'd use one over the other: really it comes down to what would work best for the audio you are working on.Symphony Sid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:43 pmThanks for the heads up. Sorry to be an annoyance but other than 4 more bands on the 8000 vs the 4000 and the 8000 being newer the difference is not clear to me. If I buy the 8000 why would I need the 4000??plexuss wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:36 pmDude, honestly... read the product pages. The answers are there...Symphony Sid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:56 pm Anyone know the difference between the ML-8000 and the ML-4000?? Isn't the 8000 an upgraded 4000???
https://www.mcdsp.com/plugin-index/ml8000/
https://www.mcdsp.com/plugin-index/ml4000/
If you are on a budget and want one over the other, the main points are:
ML8000 - 8 bands of limiting with different modes, mastering quality limiter
ML4000 - 4 bands of various kinds of dynamics, mastering quality limiter
They are actually different enough that the over-lap isn't as much as you might think. Both are useful dependng on what you need to do.
I'd say the ML8000 is more of a "transparent" mastering tool. The ML4000 has less bands to deal with (faster workflow) and more modes making it perhaps more versatile at the cost of more complexity.
Does that help???
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- 85 posts since 25 Jul, 2019
Greatly appreciated. You are one of the few that could answer in such detail. Thank you for suffering me, if not quite gladly
- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
You're welcome!Symphony Sid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:52 pm Greatly appreciated. You are one of the few that could answer in such detail. Thank you for suffering me, if not quite gladly
I suppose McDSP could have rolled them together into a 4/8 band dynamics processor: have a toggle between 4/8 bands and then bring over all the dynamics processing from the ML4000. You might wonder why would they separate them into two separate products? Initally it would seem it would be out of greed. But once I started working with them, and other McDSP products, I realized part of the McDSP "thing" is to really focus each tool on a speicifc kind of workflow, rather than rolling tons of features together into a more complex tool. I personally like having them separate and the workflow well thought out because in use, for me, I find it faster and easier to remain focused. It's a kind of suble User Experience refinement that you don't find with my other companies.
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