Beware of scammers selling unused reg codes!

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Urs
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27560 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:15 am

Hi all,

currently there's a new scam where people sell "unused" redeem codes aka registration codes for our products. In this scam, the redeem codes are not obtained legally, but by means of fraud.

At this point, there is no good reason for anyone to sell redeem codes from our NI sale anymore, because this time the bundle was not splittable. There never was any good reason really to resell a redeem code for a third party seller.

If you still wish to buy such a code, we highly advise to make sure you verify the identity of the seller, e.g. obtain their phone number, give them a call.

Cheers,

- Urs

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surreal
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2466 posts since 3 Dec, 2006

Post Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:27 am

Cue Song---- when theres something fake in your neighbourhood... who ya gonna call.... scambusters.... when theres a serial code and it don't look true... who ya gonna call....

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Kypresso
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384 posts since 26 Mar, 2014

Post Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:37 pm

Urs wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:15 am At this point, there is no good reason for anyone to sell redeem codes from our NI sale anymore, because this time the bundle was not splittable. There never was any good reason really to resell a redeem code for a third party seller.
Well i have a good reason for having unused codes from the first NI sale, i wanted half the bundle to complete my U-he collection and was going to gift the others to my partner. However she changed her mind about using a daw and went back to just playing guitar.

I'd forgotten all about the unused codes, guess i wont find it easy to sell them now, :(
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Urs
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27560 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:36 am

Kypresso wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:37 pm
Urs wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:15 am At this point, there is no good reason for anyone to sell redeem codes from our NI sale anymore, because this time the bundle was not splittable. There never was any good reason really to resell a redeem code for a third party seller.
Well i have a good reason for having unused codes from the first NI sale, i wanted half the bundle to complete my U-he collection and was going to gift the others to my partner. However she changed her mind about using a daw and went back to just playing guitar.

I'd forgotten all about the unused codes, guess i wont find it easy to sell them now, :(
Well, that's all okay. However be aware that there are scammers out there who found a loophole by selling unused registration codes. In case of doubt we can verify that your codes are from the first NI sale and I'll be happy to testify that then if you're selling g on KVR.

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gondii
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1074 posts since 8 Oct, 2019

Post Sat May 08, 2021 10:51 am

I really appreciate how much thought and care you put into protecting people buying (and selling) second hand licenses of your products, Urs.

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masterhiggins
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3044 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota

Post Sat May 08, 2021 11:29 am

This applies only to u-he codes, of course. I frequently sell other unused reg codes from other devs because I'm the world's worst impulse-buyer and frequently regret purchases seconds after hitting "submit" on the order page. :wink:

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Urs
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27560 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Sat May 08, 2021 10:21 pm

The scam is not specific to u-he reg codes. Please understand that I won't lay out how it's done, just be aware that this issue exists, some of our customers ran into it, and if you buy unused reg codes, please double check the seller's rep.

safari70
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100 posts since 26 Sep, 2012

Post Thu May 13, 2021 1:07 am

Is there a way for the seller to validate the code with u-he then send the buyer a proof of confirmation before proceeding?

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telecode
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2290 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Thu May 13, 2021 3:12 am

Urs post is what makes U-he such a class act in this music software business.
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killmaster
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2271 posts since 5 Oct, 2003

Post Thu May 13, 2021 3:20 am

I just purchased an unused code for Hive 2. If I was able to activate it in my account (which I was) and have the code sent back to me ok when I requested to have my serials sent (which worked), is it a legit unused code?

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Urs
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27560 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Thu May 13, 2021 8:23 am

killmaster wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 3:20 am I just purchased an unused code for Hive 2. If I was able to activate it in my account (which I was) and have the code sent back to me ok when I requested to have my serials sent (which worked), is it a legit unused code?
I can't answer this in detail without unveiling the method, which I do not feel comfortable about.

But no, we do not immediately know if you, a shop, us or even the person who sold the code to you got scammed. We usually know a few weeks later.

Funkybot's Evil Twin
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11042 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Thu May 13, 2021 10:00 am

Are there any specific seller names, places they’re selling, email addresses, etc. that could be shared that would help potential buyers identify these scammers in advance?

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Urs
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27560 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Thu May 13, 2021 11:51 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 10:00 am Are there any specific seller names, places they’re selling, email addresses, etc. that could be shared that would help potential buyers identify these scammers in advance?
I don't have that information. I'm not even sure if we had it, it would be actual names of actual people.

As I said, I don't think it applies only to us, it's just an annoying next level of scam that occurred to a handful of long term customers of ours.

jcolle
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Post Fri May 14, 2021 7:54 am

And you guys add 30 days before reselling because of this right? Good move. You protect your customers very well!
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Urs
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27560 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Post Fri May 14, 2021 8:22 am

jcolle wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 7:54 am And you guys add 30 days before reselling because of this right? Good move. You protect your customers very well!
I think 6 weeks...

It's the time it usually takes for a credit institutes to process chargebacks.

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