zynaptiq unmix:drum VS izotope master or music rebalance ?

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Krakatau
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Post Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:53 am

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I'm considering to buy unmix drum but knowing that it is a relatively old technology, if it make sense if i already own the similar processor include in the music production suite from izotope (master rebalance from ozone 9, music rebalance from RX9, or even sculptor from neutron 3)

As a specialised plugin i assume it might be more detailed and effective, but i don't know if in the case it will be worth the price (169 $) ?

Ploki
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6121 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:46 am

Music Rebalance in RX is based on machine learning Splitter by Deezer (as most tools these days), and it's considered the best.

RX swapped their own algo with splitter some time ago.

I don't think Zynaptiq can really compete with it.
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Krakatau
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:36 am

well...I just installed the tryout version and at a very first impression, I've found it rather intuitive and flexible in dislocating drums against (mostly) polyphonic instruments

the way it has been built up make very easy tu use as a mastering tool...but still a bit pricey in comparison with the isotope's ones !?

:?

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elxsound
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Post Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:00 am

Krakatau wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:36 am well...I just installed the tryout version and at a very first impression, I've found it rather intuitive and flexible in dislocating drums against (mostly) polyphonic instruments

the way it has been built up make very easy tu use as a mastering tool...but still a bit pricey in comparison with the isotope's ones !?

:?
It’s been on sale at least once if not multiple times last year, bringing the price down $150 or less (can’t remember). I would expect them to have it on sale again if you can wait.

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Post Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:05 am

elxsound wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:00 am
Krakatau wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:36 am well...I just installed the tryout version and at a very first impression, I've found it rather intuitive and flexible in dislocating drums against (mostly) polyphonic instruments

the way it has been built up make very easy tu use as a mastering tool...but still a bit pricey in comparison with the isotope's ones !?

:?
It’s been on sale at least once if not multiple times last year, bringing the price down $150 or less (can’t remember). I would expect them to have it on sale again if you can wait.
I likely will... :)

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Post Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:34 pm

I'm using Unmix:DRUMS right now on a re-mastering project. What's great about it is that it has EQ curves that you can apply to just the drums, i.e. making the kick louder and the cymbals quieter. I don't know of any other software that lets you do this when you only have the 2-track to work with.

MogwaiBoy
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Post Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:53 pm

Do either of these really work without chirpy artifacts? :o

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Post Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:52 am

Splitter is fairly impressive ngl
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:43 am

Uncovered Pitch wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:34 pm I'm using Unmix:DRUMS right now on a re-mastering project. What's great about it is that it has EQ curves that you can apply to just the drums, i.e. making the kick louder and the cymbals quieter. I don't know of any other software that lets you do this when you only have the 2-track to work with.
indeed !

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Krakatau
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:45 am

MogwaiBoy wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:53 pm Do either of these really work without chirpy artifacts? :o
at extreme setting perhaps, but not noticeable at a more reasonable degree, these technologies has made undeniable progress...

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