Next steps for Bazille

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Hi,

I was wondering if there will be any next steps for u-he virtual modular synths- like Bazille. I think that it would be really interesting to expand the synths with more modules that allow for non-keyboard experimentation (e.g. quantizer that adapts to scales, clock dividers). If i recall correctly there was a vision some years ago to create a complete modular system. Perhaps that is no longer on the cards with the range of competing solutions (e.g. VCV, Reaktor, Cherry)?

What do people think? And what would you like to see in a Bazille's evolution?

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I'm all for more West Coast synthesis stuff, like scale quantizers, clock dividers, attenuverters, etc.. I dig how they did the scale quantizer in Hive 2 to bring in some of that flavor in a synth you wouldn't normally associate with modular/West Coast.

I think Urs has already stated that he's incorporating some of that into Z3's design elements, or will, which is cool.

At one point they kicked around the idea of VCV modules but I think the developer left. Maybe that will be back on the cards someday. I'd love having U-he and Cytomic modules together in VCV. What could be better than that outside of analog?

But yeah, the big "Belin Modular" project has been shelved from what I understand, but I think Urs has made clear that he'd like to incorporate West Coast principals into the product line and he's a big fan of modular (as evidenced by their hardware).

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Yeah, would love to add things, but we really need to focus on Z3 now, then Diva next. OTOH we're now twice as many devs as we used to be, maybe at some point we can have a team work on ACE/Bazille as well.

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abobby wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 12:58 pm What do people think? And what would you like to see in a Bazille's evolution?
I would like to see some workflow improvements in Bazille.

1 - Copy/Paste between Osc's would be an example.
2 - A mirror option where there are 2 Osc's, 2 Env's an LFO, 2 Multiples and a Filter in each and editing one half of the mirror also updates the other.

Features:
1 - An added super high quality mode
2 - An alternate Filter type could be fun to explore
3 - Improved/New FX including a per voice distortion

Workflow improvements to speed up sound design would be my main request.

Besides that, I'm happy with Bazille as is since I use the CLAP version in Bitwig and every knob can be modulated per voice using Bitwig modulation. That alone is like a Bazille 2.0.

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Adding cable bypass toggle would be a great step toward improving accessibility.

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jtsterays wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 4:53 pm Adding cable bypass toggle would be a great step toward improving accessibility.
What's a cable bypass toggle?

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pdxindy wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 5:05 pm
jtsterays wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 4:53 pm Adding cable bypass toggle would be a great step toward improving accessibility.
What's a cable bypass toggle?
Being able to turn off a cable without disconnecting it. Extremely useful for learning patches.

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Additive rendering engine for Baz' ah !

Ps: don't get me wrong, Bazille is one of my 2 favorite synths along its stripped sibling.
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Urs wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 3:00 pm Yeah, would love to add things, but we really need to focus on Z3 now, then Diva next. OTOH we're now twice as many devs as we used to be, maybe at some point we can have a team work on ACE/Bazille as well.
Is there any chance of Diva getting a nice new default theme that looks more like the MONA theme?

https://plugmon.jp/product/mona/#description

This theme is absolutely beautiful! However, it is a third-party theme.

I prefer to use built-in themes, rather than 3rd party themes, because there is no guarantee that a third party theme will remain compatible with the plugin when updates come.
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Diva's original theme is rather iconic, we won't change it too much.

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I agree that MONA improves on a lot of aspects of the factory skin. Somehow it feels like more things are accessible and faster to use. I'm sure Plugmon will keep at it :)

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audiojunkie wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 10:12 pm Is there any chance of Diva getting a ...
Hey, this is a Bazille thread :x

Nothing should get in the way of my beloved Bazille! :hihi:

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I still think Tokyo Ghost is THE Bazille skin. ;)

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 2:18 am I still think Tokyo Ghost is THE Bazille skin. ;)
I bought it, liked it and still ended up back on the Gearporn skin

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