One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

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z.prime
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1784 posts since 29 Sep, 2011

Post Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:53 am

Dirtgrain wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:17 pm
I wonder who has done the most, and what their perspective is on variety in the criteria.
Surely Yeager has done the most but seems to have dropped off the face of the earth, sadly. doctorbob may be catching up slowly. I've done my fair share, and I'd proffer that the deadline given was the most important thing for me -- it forced completing tracks, forced learning new techniques, and forced learning how to program synths. These things can be some of the foundation for creating electronic music. That's what I find valuable.

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z.prime
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Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:20 am

TIME SENSITIVE! Cherry Audio Voltage Modular FREE this month + song contest!

Hi all, again sorry for the cross-posting-spamalot but thought some of you may be interested in this one.

It came to my attention that Cherry Audio Voltage Modular is FREE until the end of the month. Unfortunately, that will probably mean it can’t be used for a O.S.C., since it won’t be freely available for all to get after this month. So @lempface and I thought it would be a great idea to run a contest concurrently following the basic spirit of the O.S.C.: create an original track with all sound originating from the synth. However, we’re allowing all effects - both free and commercial, sampling of the synth, and mangling afterwards. Basically do whatever you want, as long as all audio sources originate from the synth.

Rules
  • All sounds must originate from Cherry Audio Voltage Modular Nucleus (no paid modules)
  • Submit tracks by posting to the KVR thread before October 1, 2019
  • Voting will run for 15 days afterwards
  • Must vote to be ranked in the results
  • You must be willing provide a DAW project file to admins upon request for rule validation purposes; it will be deleted after inspection
  • Must be an original track (e.g. no covers)
Prizes
  • Voltage Modular Core + Electro Drums (a $200 value)
  • More incoming!
So go get Voltage Modular before the end of the month! You can get it easily from Cherry Audio or Plugin Boutique.

You can join the One Synth Challenge Slack workspace (here to sign up) and the KVR thread about this contest.

Hope to hear your tracks!

strogon14
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69 posts since 29 Apr, 2011 from Cologne, Germany

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:09 am

Hi there, I want to keep the amount of non-OSC stuff here to a minumum, but since a few regular OSClers participated in our last year's FM Challenge, I hope it's appropriate to mention that we're doing a competition again this year and it starts the day after tomorrow:

Open Source Music Nexus Challenge

Discussion about the compo will probably take place on linuxmusicians.com. Hope to see a few of you again there!

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Tj Shredder
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3375 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:20 am

Candidate for the next OSC:
Lith from http://sodadevices.com

Music Bird
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240 posts since 23 Apr, 2017 from Eastern US

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:02 pm

A candidate should be any GTG synth, or maybe Elektrostudio synths or EFM ones. I’d also like to do an OBXD or any Full Bucket Synth as well.
Synth1, PG8X, Dexed, Sound Canvas VA, FB-3x00 series, blooo, scrooo, qyooo, SQ8L, GTG FM4, DSK Asian and Indian DreamZ, and much more VSTs. Casio, Yamaha, Korg, Alesis HW.

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Tj Shredder
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Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:15 pm

Music Bird wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:02 pm
A candidate should be any GTG synth, or maybe Elektrostudio synths or EFM ones. I’d also like to do an OBXD or any Full Bucket Synth as well.
Only OBXD and Full Bucket are cross platform, but had been done in the past already. I would prefer new synths. Listen to the presets of Lith and you will know it will be an epic round...

functionform
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420 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:22 am

Wow Lith looks very concise and versatile!

edit: CHOOSE THIS SYNTH. Presets are amazing and the sound out of this is very lively. Very inspiring freebie, incredible. Kind of reminds me of Helm with regard to its brevity and sound options.

edit: 2, WOW well you pay for that sound quality in CPU. It's spiking to 12% on my reasonably beefy desktop. Still though very beautiful.

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Chris-S
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2654 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany

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Post Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:53 am

Typo on the kvrosc page:
End of Sumbissions

RichardSemper
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553 posts since 30 Oct, 2013 from Stoke On Trent

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:46 pm

Chris-S wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:53 am
Typo on the kvrosc page:
End of Sumbissions
Well spotted! :hihi:

basa333
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86 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from CZ

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:57 pm

for me would be challenge the OSC with 1 instance of a concrete synth in a concrete music style - classic, jazz, rock etc. without other plugins (limiter, compressors etc)
I am laughing, if I see in one track 65 instances of one synth and 30 other plugins. where is the sense of this?

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exponent1
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Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:21 am

basa333 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:57 pm
for me would be challenge the OSC with 1 instance of a concrete synth in a concrete music style - classic, jazz, rock etc. without other plugins (limiter, compressors etc)
I am laughing, if I see in one track 65 instances of one synth and 30 other plugins. where is the sense of this?
By all means go ahead and produce a song with these restrictions.

Trojak did it last time and he did a fabulous job.

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Dirtgrain
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354 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

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Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:18 am

basa333 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:57 pm
where is the sense of this?
Way more possibilities in sound design, composition, melody, harmony, intricacy. Still, I recall a blues guitarist, One String Sam. And Django Reinhardt used only three fingers to fret. Not too shabby.

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TrojakEW
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326 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Slovakia

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Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:55 am

exponent1 wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:21 am
By all means go ahead and produce a song with these restrictions.

Trojak did it last time and he did a fabulous job.
:oops: Too bad it was not that fabulous.
basa333 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:57 pm
for me would be challenge the OSC with 1 instance of a concrete synth in a concrete music style - classic, jazz, rock etc. without other plugins (limiter, compressors etc)
I am laughing, if I see in one track 65 instances of one synth and 30 other plugins. where is the sense of this?
There is nothing wrong about using 65 instances. You can set your own personal challenge like I did in #127, I just want to make something different. Using only one synth is real challenge for most of people and making it even harder will not make it better. I actually don't care how many instances track use. Important is the result. There is one user that is master in using just one instance of synth and that is Guenon. Check this track from OSC #106 - that is just one instance :
https://soundcloud.com/guenooni/guenon- ... nge-106-fb
Crazy crazy stuff!

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aciddose
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12312 posts since 7 Dec, 2004

Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:15 am

exponent1 wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 12:21 am
basa333 wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:57 pm
for me would be challenge the OSC with 1 instance of a concrete synth in a concrete music style - classic, jazz, rock etc. without other plugins (limiter, compressors etc)
I am laughing, if I see in one track 65 instances of one synth and 30 other plugins. where is the sense of this?
By all means go ahead and produce a song with these restrictions.

Trojak did it last time and he did a fabulous job.
It depends upon how you define "one instance" or "synth". Xhip for example is fully multi-timbral and supports up to 128 preset sounds running on up to 32 * 16 unison (512) voices in a single instance. I've never bothered to make this externally accessible via MIDI since MIDI maxes out at 16 channels anyway... but you could be sending messages to 16 internal "instances" with individual voice allocation and such that way if it were implemented. As it is currently it does support playing a "module" sequence file where notes/presets/settings are set on every voice "channel" individually. I'm not sure if I've limited the number of channels... if not you could directly control all 512 voices.

https://soundcloud.com/xhip/visit_by_luciferahx

Most of the tracks written this way are inherently "chiptune" style and very simplistic, since it's so much easier to compose without such limitations to a single instance. The difficulty ramps up in terms of practical application of the synthesizer rather than focusing on compositional, production and timbre related skills. So such a rule would be the same as "no mouse or controller, only raw PC keyboard input!"

So thinking in terms of "instances" just really doesn't make sense when it could be defeated so easily. It's a completely arbitrary and subjective concept... although most synthesizers are very limited in their flexibility those limitations are not inherent... they're part of the design of a particular synthesizer.

Since it's subjective, yes, you'd need to voluntarily limit yourself in whatever way you see most fit. There couldn't be a rule for such a limitation without limiting which synthesizers can be used and in which ways.
Free plug-ins for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Xhip Synthesizer v8.0 and Xhip Effects Bundle v6.7.

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aciddose
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Re: One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:27 am

TrojakEW wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:55 am
There is one user that is master in using just one instance of synth and that is Guenon. Check this track from OSC #106 - that is just one instance :
Crazy crazy stuff!
That's a cool one! Atari (or PC speaker) style chiptunes can be very well done. It isn't always such a limitation to set your polyphony very low as components of the melody and rhythm don't happen at the same time except where harmony is a focus.

Honestly harmony is boring since our western music focuses so heavily upon it. Who would be entertained by thousands of tracks built of "G-major!!!" strumming over and over with a vocal arpeggiated between the same notes between octaves?

By limiting polyphony and switching parts in and out over time, the focus becomes more toward rhythm and melody rather than harmony.
Free plug-ins for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Xhip Synthesizer v8.0 and Xhip Effects Bundle v6.7.

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