Jean michel Jarre VST

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Numanoid wrote: should be worthy to check out for those seeking Oxygene sounds.
Yeah, should be ...
It's only taken about 3 years to fix the Filter Level knob so it actually does anything (and to make the sequencer one-shot mode useable).
Maybe when they get around to fixing the Osc 1 Shape and the Trapezoid decay modulation I'll start taking it seriously as an emulation.
Not saying it doesn't sound good - just, not a Synthi.

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There's not that much inherent wizardry in the hardware used that was responsible for Jarre's signature sounds. They can be reproduced by most run-of-the-mill synthesizers. My sound bank for Synth1 has several Oxygene-influenced patches which you can get here at KVR.

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bedjka wrote:Hi
i am looking for a vst synth which would reproduce this kind of sound
(oxygene)
Thanks
I bought this:
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/strings/

Really good samples of the actual machines that give those early Jarre albums their haunting quality.

As for the others who are recommending the small stone phaser: I bought one to make "Jarre music" and it really only works on white noise. That's how you get that awesome jet engine whoosh noise. Other than that I found it not very interesting. I sold mine.

btw: here is my jarre-sounding album
http://boomkat.com/downloads/406845-jsd-nitrogen

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Not entirely Jarre-sounding, but track no 5 of my old album Aelectroid http://macofbionight.bandcamp.com/album/aelectroid should give you at least a vague idea of what the Elektrostudio analog pack http://www.elektrostudio.ovh.org/?lang= ... 7bfc3e15e3 can do

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jsd wrote:As for the others who are recommending the small stone phaser: I bought one to make "Jarre music" and it really only works on white noise. That's how you get that awesome jet engine whoosh noise. Other than that I found it not very interesting. I sold mine.
Sounds very strange to me. AFAIK, he has been using it a lot with the Eminent 310 string machine. E.g. in the very opening of Oxygene 1 there is a clearly audible "floating" sound of the strings, produced by the phaser. There is a very pronounced resonance of the phaser in the chords of Equinoxe 2. Etc.
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Stopani wrote:
nexusdawn wrote:
Z1202 wrote:combined with a Smallstone phaser.


ArtsAcoustic made an excellent circuit modeled plugin of the Smallstone, called BigRock. To my ears, the best phaser out there.
Thats interesting, i'm guessing then that the 'Stoned' phaser on U-He's Diva is based on that.
nope, its based on Urs meeting me :party:

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:hihi:


So.....we'll we see you doing 'Oxygene' cover then?
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Syntilla wrote:
Numanoid wrote: should be worthy to check out for those seeking Oxygene sounds.
Yeah, should be ...
It's only taken about 3 years to fix the Filter Level knob so it actually does anything (and to make the sequencer one-shot mode useable).
Maybe when they get around to fixing the Osc 1 Shape and the Trapezoid decay modulation I'll start taking it seriously as an emulation.
Not saying it doesn't sound good - just, not a Synthi.
Well, reducing the full modular Xils3 ( zillions of possible modulations and intermodulations ) to two mods that dont still work totally as expected seems a bit unfair to me but well if its the only way you see it, its ok.... :shrug:

I prefer by much Peter Zinoviev's approach, the creator of the Synthi, who says that the Xils3 is his prefered synthi emulation, and that it brings a lot of additional things that were not possible in the original synth. And that, if he had to do it all over again today, he'll do it with ..... Xils :wink:

JMJ also massively used the Elka Synthex. Synthix might be seen as the closest emulation of the Synthex. Anayway everyone can demo these synths and make their own idea of what they offer.
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Lotuzia wrote:
JMJ also massively used the Elka Synthex. .
True. Although, the Synthex was used much later, certainly not on Oxygene (which the OP is asking for). Then again, Synthex and pretty much any flexible synth with some external effects can get at the majority of the sounds used in Oxygene.
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I remember trying to to a cover of Oxygene 1 a few year back, using a generic VA synth (a really good one) and a generic phaser. I could get close to the string sound of Oxygene, but never close enough. The Eminent 310 + Smallstone setup has a number of features which are absolutely not straightforward to get, unless you know exactly what you have to do. And these features do make a critical differences. I also remember failing to reproduce the Minimoog bass part in the middle of the piece (now I understand that this was because it needed the special monophonic behavior of the Minimoog).

I'm not saying that it's impossible to recreate the Oxygene sound with generic stuff. However you might invest hours of time getting the right sound (and still fail, unless you're a brilliant sound designer or simply have the knowledge of what exactly to do). Or you might simply get the right emulations (or the respective hardware equipment ;) ) and get the sound you're looking for immediately at your disposal.

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Meesha's albums are inspired by the 70's sound of Jarre, here is a cover of a Jarre tune for example (from the second Oxygene):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sofVAJvTyoM

He also makes freeware VSTs, so should be possible to tweak some oxygene sounding patches out of them I think :)

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@Z1202

You're right. It's not easy to re-create the beautiful analog tapestry of Oxygene 100%. And as you say, it's perhaps easier to focus on direct emulation synths to get the job done more quickly and more accurately. However, using a generic synth plus suitable effects can serve as a good learning exercise. So even if the sound isn't 100% spot on, it's still a valid method from a learning point of view.
Z1202 wrote: I could get close to the string sound of Oxygene, but never close enough. The Eminent 310 + Smallstone setup has a number of features which are absolutely not straightforward to get, unless you know exactly what you have to do.
Today there are a number of BBD-inspired chorus plugins which can help to transform a simple sawtooth into a lush Eminent-like string sound. Then add that phaser...

Also, you mention the Minimoog - it wasn't used on Oxygene, as far as I know.

By the way, anyone who likes JMJ's early sound (Oxygene, Equinox, Magnetic Fieldsds) check out Kebu's music channel on YouTube. :love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCYhreM7kao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXsvhXRdh74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJ6-IgMd1M
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himalaya wrote:So even if the sound isn't 100% spot on, it's still a valid method from a learning point of view.
Of course it is. But I failed to get the JMJ "vibe" with that approach. Maybe today, that I have more knowledge and experience, it would have been different, who knows.
himalaya wrote:Also, you mention the Minimoog - it wasn't used on Oxygene, as far as I know.
The sound I was referring to is the bass at 4:25 of Oxygene 1. At least on the Oxygene Live video it's played on the Minimoog (IIRC). And I remember having huge difficulties to get that sound with the "generic" VA (due to the mono features specific to the Minimoog, as I understand know).

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Z1202 wrote:However, most likely you are looking for a decent emulator of Eminent 310 string machine combined with a Smallstone phaser. I could recommend this (you need to own full version Reaktor for that).
Actually it works with the free Reaktor Player, but you will have to reload the ensemble every 15 or so minutes (which is very easy and takes 1 second in REAPER if you have a macro for that).


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Also for the VCS3 you can check out the great KXSynth16.
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Mutant wrote:Actually it works with the free Reaktor Player, but you will have to reload the ensemble every 15 or so minutes (which is very easy and takes 1 second in REAPER if you have a macro for that).
Luckily for Reaktor Player I think you get 30 minutes.

It's Kontakt that shrank to 15 minutes usage for third party libraries :(

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