Catalina & Big Sur Nightmare (Solved)
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 153 posts since 2 Dec, 2016 from Palma de Mallorca
It seems that the problem is Logic, I have cleared the cache audio units and one of my plugins is validated correctly but logic closes when opening this plugin, it also closes when loading Massive X
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 153 posts since 2 Dec, 2016 from Palma de Mallorca
Well, it seems that the problem also has large companies like Native Instruments. In my case it only happens with a single plugin and from the tests I am doing I think the problem is in the png image of the knobs. Cheers
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 22 Sep, 2017
Hello, all! I've been making a drum sampler plugin and, for the past few months, I've been struggling with my own Catalina nightmare. I don't have access to a Mac, but the friend I work with does and we've been trying to make it work with various degrees of success. The latest version of Maize seems to make working VST3's, but the vendor still shows up as "Maizesoft" instead of our own name. I've tried to rename the files using Notepad++, but then the plugins don't work at all. AU's don't work, either. Maize did send me some custom players with our name, which didn't work, either. Musik Man's solution seems to be good, but I cannot afford it.
If anyone can lend a hand, please, let me know. I will add your name or KVR username in the manual as a beta tester. The plugin will be free/pay-what-you-want and all the samples are CC-BY 4.0 licensed. Thank you!
If anyone can lend a hand, please, let me know. I will add your name or KVR username in the manual as a beta tester. The plugin will be free/pay-what-you-want and all the samples are CC-BY 4.0 licensed. Thank you!
Organic Calfskin Kit - Free/Donationware Drum VST for Mac and Win
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 153 posts since 2 Dec, 2016 from Palma de Mallorca
Hi, you do not need to pay anything if you can access to use a Mac. Export from Windows or Mac, with version 2.5.8 (this works perfectly for me) you will need a mac to create the installers with http://s.sudre.free.fr/Software/Packages/about.html To create the installers for Windows there are several free options.retroactivecont wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:31 am Hello, all! I've been making a drum sampler plugin and, for the past few months, I've been struggling with my own Catalina nightmare. I don't have access to a Mac, but the friend I work with does and we've been trying to make it work with various degrees of success. The latest version of Maize seems to make working VST3's, but the vendor still shows up as "Maizesoft" instead of our own name. I've tried to rename the files using Notepad++, but then the plugins don't work at all. AU's don't work, either. Maize did send me some custom players with our name, which didn't work, either. Musik Man's solution seems to be good, but I cannot afford it.
If anyone can lend a hand, please, let me know. I will add your name or KVR username in the manual as a beta tester. The plugin will be free/pay-what-you-want and all the samples are CC-BY 4.0 licensed. Thank you!
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- KVRist
- 51 posts since 22 Sep, 2017
Thank you, I'll give it a shot!BeatMaker_xyz wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:04 am Hi, you do not need to pay anything if you can access to use a Mac. Export from Windows or Mac, with version 2.5.8 (this works perfectly for me) you will need a mac to create the installers with http://s.sudre.free.fr/Software/Packages/about.html To create the installers for Windows there are several free options.
Organic Calfskin Kit - Free/Donationware Drum VST for Mac and Win
- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
Bad news, the Maize Sample Player doesn't work anymore. It worked for a while, but now it's not recognize at all by macOS Catalina. The player won't show up in people's plugin list.
At this point, I would strongly advise anyone wanting to create plugins/virtual instruments to move from Maize to another framework: Kontakt, Hise Sampler, Halion, SE, etc.
The solution mentioned in this thread half works by the way. I wouldn't rely on it unless you have a very low number of customers per month (10 or less). Otherwise, the support will be filled with error reports. Believe me, I know this from experience.
At this point, I would strongly advise anyone wanting to create plugins/virtual instruments to move from Maize to another framework: Kontakt, Hise Sampler, Halion, SE, etc.
The solution mentioned in this thread half works by the way. I wouldn't rely on it unless you have a very low number of customers per month (10 or less). Otherwise, the support will be filled with error reports. Believe me, I know this from experience.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 153 posts since 2 Dec, 2016 from Palma de Mallorca
I have used the solution of this thread with my free vst mega pack and in my payment complements, more than 10,000 people have downloaded the free ones in the last months and so far I have not had more than 5 support emails. https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/fold ... 6Jaucz_-z5SampleScience wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:46 pm Bad news, the Maize Sample Player doesn't work anymore. It worked for a while, but now it's not recognize at all by macOS Catalina. The player won't show up in people's plugin list.
At this point, I would strongly advise anyone wanting to create plugins/virtual instruments to move from Maize to another framework: Kontakt, Hise Sampler, Halion, SE, etc.
The solution mentioned in this thread half works by the way. I wouldn't rely on it unless you have a very low number of customers per month (10 or less). Otherwise, the support will be filled with error reports. Believe me, I know this from experience.
But you are right, at some point this temporary installer solution will also stop working ..
If you have ever used the solution presented here, it may be that you have not built your installer well or you have not given the correct installation instructions [right click / open]
I use version 2.5.8 exporting from windows 10 and creating the pkg and dmg installers with canvas in macOS Catalina.
By the way the current version of maize 2.7.0 still export a maize sampler player for mac?
Another solution would be to sell only for Windows.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 153 posts since 2 Dec, 2016 from Palma de Mallorca
Soon we will have the Big Sur nightmare, I will not waste so much energy and time with this, I will definitively stop creating Plugins for mac
- KVRian
- 1311 posts since 7 Apr, 2019 from Canada
Blue cat's is likely the only reliable alternative. I asked the Miaze people if they'd hire Me. I'd rebuild it myself and just gut it and make it even simpler than it is. Of course I like VST2, but that's their choice. I guess I'd rely on xcode solutions, given that others screw up. I'm guessing that has something to do with ways that processor handling is changing. They're moving away again from intel.
Maybe I'd go with angelscript and Bluecat's frankly, If I was to re-make maize. At least Blue cat has to make their own plug-ins mac ready. they'd really be the only company that could live up to that boast. With Juce being built, and OpenGL support being so fanatic (laughable) I have My doubts.
I much prefer KUIML, but then again; Angelscript.. not sure how I feel about that. Could it be made to output a .mse though. I guess if you paid them a few hundred anything's possible.
Maybe I'd go with angelscript and Bluecat's frankly, If I was to re-make maize. At least Blue cat has to make their own plug-ins mac ready. they'd really be the only company that could live up to that boast. With Juce being built, and OpenGL support being so fanatic (laughable) I have My doubts.
I much prefer KUIML, but then again; Angelscript.. not sure how I feel about that. Could it be made to output a .mse though. I guess if you paid them a few hundred anything's possible.
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- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
Exactly, this Catalina nightmare was only the beginning. With Big Sur and the upcoming Apple ARM processors, we're going to have more problems. I wonder what Xiang will do with Maize Sampler?BeatMaker_xyz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:46 am Soon we will have the Big Sur nightmare, I will not waste so much energy and time with this, I will definitively stop creating Plugins for mac
I still release plugins for macOS High Sierra/Mojave because it's stable. I'll keep releasing them as long as I can.
But when it won't work anymore I'll either stop developing plugins altogether and do something else or I'll use something like Hise Sampler.
For the moment my plan is to release multi-formats VST/VST3/AU plugin/Kontakt/Halion/TX16wx instruments. This is the future for me. Kontakt and TX16wx development is fairly fast, Halion is time-consuming though and I'm not sure it's worth it. We'll see!
- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
Yes it does, I've had better luck with the Maize Player for Mac than the custom installers, but at some point, it stopped working. I have no idea why. Maybe it's because of a macOS update that rendered unusable. I don't know.BeatMaker_xyz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:35 am By the way the current version of maize 2.7.0 still export a maize sampler player for mac?
When my 2019 mac mini became super slow and basically died, it was the final nail in the coffin. 3 months of work down the drain. A 99$ developer account for nothing. Apple dev support completely useless (their support team is confused at best). I started developing eczema and I was super stressed.
I'm all about overcoming obstacles, but this was just too much for me.
In the process I developed a passion for graphic design, so I'll probably move to this field and eventually sell resources for graphic designers.
- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
I've read in another thread that the right-click install doesn't work anymore in the latest version of macOS (Big Sur). Is it the case in the latest updated version of Catalina too? In any case, the solution didn't last long (1 year) just like I thought.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 153 posts since 2 Dec, 2016 from Palma de Mallorca
Right click install still works fine with the latest updated version of macOS Catalina, I checked a few minutes ago with my new Plugin
- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
This is good if at least it can stay compatible with Catalina. Then, it means that it's on Big Sur that you can't right-click open anymore.BeatMaker_xyz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:40 pm Right click install still works fine with the latest updated version of macOS Catalina, I checked a few minutes ago with my new Plugin