What about MSEG modulator in Bitwig ?

[pdxindy]

Seems like an MSEG modulator is a relatively easy addition that would make plenty of people happy.

[horizon7]

There is also UVI's Shade own MSEG this looks ideal & similar to AL M4L's MSEG.
TBH the polynom Modulator is strange BW claims that we could shape any LFO
or envelope further with this tool. but this is confusing method. they should afford some thing
like easy & clear like M4L's MSEG instead of curve going up & down.

The 4-stage ENV having limitation also only 5 points with limited curve settings & no ms measures
no speed control. think of "X-fer LFO Tool" & how it has useful features (Swing, Rate, Phase, PWL
,Smooth, Note Trig, Note Gate etc..)

BWS now has many Modulators & Grid modules but I don't now why until now there isn't
any MSEG module? instead of polynom?

BTW the in the grid there are a category for "Shaper" those tools could be used not just for audio wave shaping but also as envelope shapes but are so limited same as polynom.

[xbitz]

mp324 has 4 aux outs which ones can be used as input on its own audio modulators

don't know better at this moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeWoZ2sUOCs

[Kirkwood West]

mseg mseg mseg

[coroknight]

I find it slightly concerning that this thread was created in 2017 and yet still no MSEG or even an acknowledgement from the Bitwig team.

[Biscotto]

Maybe with the coming a Grid MIDI-Out there are functions that require a more deep consideration of a MSEG implementation so that we don’t get another EQ version 2 and get it right the first time out.

[xbitz]

what was the latest workaround, I've simply added a CC signal to the MIDI stream

with triggered 4-stage ... blocked the triggering note so the original stream + newly created CC goes through the outer Chain container ... [thinking] there is not many advantages but exists

[ihearanewworld]

Haha there are 8 pages about wanting an MSEG.

[antic604]

Yeah, the mseg is loud & clear.

[Dostoyevsky]

I do feel it is important getting the MSEG across.

[ahmadfarihan]

They should build a hugeee MSEG…

[u-u-u]

Only if I can

• copy/paste automation data from/to the arranger
• have an option to convert an automation time selection into an MSEG modulator (which then is automatically added to the correct device and mapped to the correct parameter)
• drag'n'drop MSEG curves between different MSEGs
• Saving MSEG curves as .bwenvelope files and load them using the Bitwig popup browser
• modulatable "MSEG morphing" (for morphing the MSEG node positions and curve shapes using the Bitwig modulation system)

Otherwise it wouldn't be the Bitwig-style deep integration.

[NomadMonad]

Only if I can

• copy/paste automation data from/to the arranger
• have an option to convert an automation time selection into an MSEG modulator (which then is automatically added to the correct device and mapped to the correct parameter)
• drag'n'drop MSEG curves between different MSEGs
• Saving MSEG curves as .bwenvelope files and load them using the Bitwig popup browser
• modulatable "MSEG morphing" (for morphing the MSEG node positions and curve shapes using the Bitwig modulation system)

Otherwise it wouldn't be the Bitwig-style deep integration.

+1

re: MSEG morphing Would be nice if they took inspiration from https://www.kvraudio.com/product/obvious-filter-by-fkfx

This plugin defines the golden standard for an MSEG editor imo

[xbitz]

worth a post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gih90GfunTM
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/stfu-by-zeek

[ollie.rollover]

Looks good xbitz, I thought it was available in Clap format because of the plug-in header, but alas!