Tracktion Software

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:54 am

droolmaster0 wrote:
AD80 wrote:
Nu Audio Science wrote:Not for a good long while yet
Thats good news. I was very worried, since it makes no sense for Mackie to keep such a useless product as Tracktion now that Live 5 is announced.
f**k this shit. I'm selling both my Tracktion 2 and p5 and buying a Virus

Why, when Live5 is released, Access is gonna go out of business.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:56 am

koolkeys wrote:I've heard some people try to suggest that Live5 will make Tracktion useless in other places too.

According to the internet, Live 5 will make EVERY sequencer useless not just Tracktion.

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:05 am

Warning incendiary comment below:

Screw loopy trippy DJ oriented dance crap - I want a platform that doesn't force the music into a narrow style bandwidth.

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:13 am

semiquaver wrote:Warning incendiary comment below:

Screw loopy trippy DJ oriented dance crap - I want a platform that doesn't force the music into a narrow style bandwidth.

That's bullshit. Live doesn't force you to make dance music, just like T doesn't force you to play the Polka.

Stuttaton · Post by **Stuttaton** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:01 am

Do you people know that "braj" is a nickname for marijuana in Sweden?

/Jörgen

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:03 am

Yes, yes I did know that.

PaulSC · Post by **PaulSC** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:16 am

Consecutive topics in "my latest topics" listing:

Raw Material Softw... T2 is the bomb...... AD80 3rd June 06:04
Raw Material Softw... will mackie drop tracktion AD80 3rd June 06:03

Summary: Will Mackie drop the bomb?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:29 am

Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?

Mother do you think they'll try to break....

my balls...

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:51 am

I heard that Charlie Steinberg's first reaction was to phone up Yamaha, and tell them they were ceasing all further development and shipping of Cubase and Nuendo. I believe the quote was something like

"Hey, Man. Like, freakin' Live 5 has come out. I just dont see the point any more. Mackie, Cakewalk, all the other big guys have had it, and I'm out of here first, man. I'm giving it all up to fulfill my youthful dream of being a renaissance fair jouster..."

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:09 am

Yea, I heard that one about Charlie, too. All the best to him, not a boy any more, is he?

Did you hear that Apple made Logic open source now that Live 5 is out? Pretty cool I think, they're already making Linux version!

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:12 am

i really hate Lives 'workflow' (or lack of)

it's pretty flexible nowadays but it's still very much orientated towards loops based music, which is great. Just not how I (and a lot of T users) want to work.

cbit · Post by **cbit** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:31 am

renaissance fair jouster.

LOL!

you could think of the release of live5 as a GOOD THING for tracktions development too.. helthy competition etc (even though theyre not in the same price bracket).

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:14 pm

Live is oriented towards tweaking clips as they loop it lets you seitch out loop layers and sections on the fly and print those. -so it leads the user towards music that has open ended looping sections with exchangeable layers. That is *very* particular. ie not Pierre Boulez, Woody Guthrie, Captain Beefheart, Miles Davis, Divan Gasparyan or... don't get me wrong, I think live is a fabulous tool and represents some fresh and powerful thinking - but it is highly optimised for a particular kind of music making - looping/layering/improv. If thats your bag, enjoy.

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:50 pm

You can make 'loops' of any length you like in Live, or *gee* not loop them at all, and you can work exclusively in Arrange view as well. I generally don't trigger things on the fly and live in Arrange view most of the time. The Session view is more of a mixer for me. The one big thing it doesn't have that T has IMO is the ability to edit in the tracks. This for me is T's greatest strength and something other sequencers don't generally do.Being able to eye clips and notes in relation to other tracks is just too useful.

You can work linearly in Live4, there's nothing preventing you.

Anyway, I heard Cubase's heart stopped briefly last night, he's now on life support and not expected to recover completely. Brain dead I'm afraid. Congress may fly in for a special session to make sure no one pulls the plug. I hear Bush said it was a good opportunity to shore up his conservative base.

Damn you Ableton! Damn you to HELL!

bastien · Post by **bastien** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:09 pm

aldi wrote:i read today that live5 is announced and it has new features that make tracktion useless for mackie, like pdc, clipfreeze and mackie control support.

I also heard that the reason the French and Dutch voted against the EU constitution was because Live 5 has a load of new features that supercede it. Bet you didn't know that!