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whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:44 pm

Mutant wrote:Oh and i wonder how many people subconsiously associate number 2 or II with hours and even days of wasted time.

Only the idiots.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:29 pm

Kingston wrote:I think in your poll it wasn't about inferiority of Revalver at all. It was simply the fact that quite likely most of those people had never even tried the original version. It really is that old!

English is not my first language but i always thought that: If A is my favourite and B is not my favourite then (for me) A is superior to B and B is inferior to A.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:35 pm

You didn't read what I said, did you?

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:41 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
, so IMHO AlienConnections would benefit from a new product name
Nonsense.

(more of their customers would subconsiously believe that it is not only an upgrade of a very old thing, but a completely new program).
More nonsense.

It is a basic marketing knowledge that a good product name is a name that associates in a potential customer mind with good things, sex, success, happiness.

Read some books about human mind manipulation ,social engineering and marketing and you'll understand what i'm trying to tell you.

ps.I'm talking about an average 100IQ customer.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:45 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Mutant wrote:Oh and i wonder how many people subconsiously associate number 2 or II with hours and even days of wasted time.
Only the idiots.

1st: How many idiots are living on our beautiful planet ?
2nd: Subconsciousness has nothing to do with inteligence.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:46 pm

Mutant wrote: It is a basic marketing knowledge that a good product name is a name that associates in a potential customer mind with good things, sex, success, happiness.

Nope.

But I'll let you pursuade me. Name five market-leader products with names which are associated with sex, success and happiness. If I can give you alternative, just-as-successful products in each category whose names arent associated with sex, success, or happiness, then my point stands. Okay?

Read some books about human mind manipulation ,social engineering and marketing and you'll understand what i'm trying to tell you.

Ive read books on all of those things. Your premise is naive.

ps.I'm talking about an average 100IQ customer.

Ah, I see. You think you're smart, therefor you're allowed to make whatever conjectures you want about folk you consider dumber than you.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:48 pm

Mutant wrote: 1st: How many idiots are living on our beautiful planet ?

From empirical observation, at least one.

2nd: Subconsciousness has nothing to do with inteligence.

Nope, but flawed assumptions do.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:52 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Mutant wrote: It is a basic marketing knowledge that a good product name is a name that associates in a potential customer mind with good things, sex, success, happiness.
Nope.

But I'll let you pursuade me.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=advertising+sex
If this doesn't get to you then i'm done arguing with you.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:54 pm

Kingston wrote:You didn't read what I said, did you?

Reread
OK i was trigger happy nervermind

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:56 pm

Mutant wrote:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=advertising+sex
If this doesn't get to you then i'm done arguing with you.

Ah, I see. You dont answer the challenge, you just make a total non-sequitur; a change of subject from the product name to product advertising.

Not quite as convincing, when its like so:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... tnG=Search

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:01 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
ps.I'm talking about an average 100IQ customer.
Ah, I see. You think you're smart, therefor you're allowed to make whatever conjectures you want about folk you consider dumber than you.

Marketing is about selling products that people don't really need if you need something you will buy it without any marketing.

Probability of a succesful sale is inversely proportional to customers IQ.

Who would buy the Brooklyn Bridge from you 60IQ imbecile or 200IQ genius ?

ps. Yes i have a small superiority complex - when i was a kid i had 137IQ and when i was 25 my IQ was 119 so i am smarter than an average man.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:04 pm

Mutant wrote: Marketing is about selling products that people don't really need if you need something you will buy it without any marketing.

Faulty reasoning. That requires the assumption that for any given product type that one needs, there is only one supplier. That is quite a stupid assumption.

Probability of a succesful sale is inversely proportional to customers IQ.

Prove it.

Who would buy the Brooklyn Bridge from you 60IQ imbecile or 200IQ genius ?

Gullibility has nothing to do with IQ scores.

ps. Yes i have a small superiority complex - when i was a kid i had 137IQ and when i was 25 my IQ was 119 so i am smarter than an average man.

You're not proving it here.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:12 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Mutant wrote:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=advertising+sex
If this doesn't get to you then i'm done arguing with you.
Ah, I see. You dont answer the challenge,

Yes i did you just can't understand that when for example the product name is: "Flying Apple" and it is advertised by a very sexy woman then when you hear "Flying Apple" you remember how sexy she looks (you basically start to associate these two words with sex) and you start to feel better and if you feel better there is a higher probability of spending your dollars on "Flying Apple" not on "Crawling Plum".

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:30 pm

Mutant wrote:Yes i did you just can't understand that

Actually I can understand. And what I understand is that you've now shifting the context to something different from the name of the product. You're now talking about branding not the product name itself, which is what you were originally talking about.

I'll repeat what you originally said, and you can remind yourself of that:

It is a basic marketing knowledge that a good product name is a name that associates in a potential customer mind with good things, sex, success, happiness.

Note that this is in direct reference to you claiming that Revalver should be renamed, so your context has zero to do with marketing or branding. Renaming a product does not build any automatic association with sex, success, or happiness.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:35 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Mutant wrote:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=advertising+sex
If this doesn't get to you then i'm done arguing with you.
Ah, I see. You dont answer the challenge, you just make a total non-sequitur; a change of subject from the product name to product advertising.

Not quite as convincing, when its like so:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... tnG=Search

hmmm ...
a sale on rabbit vibrators !...
sneaky ...

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