What Keyboard Controller (for M3?)

[pljones]

All my q's only around how to use new soft, because I'm new user Mu lab and trying to understand HOW IT WORKS

You're asking about your keyboard, not MU.LAB, really.

[sorohanro]

Confirmed.
I'm not very experienced with MIDI function inside keyboards, never had a synth and I had in my life only the Radium 49 as MIDI controller, but here it is on my keys:
- near Level/ Data Entry slider I have a button named MIDI/ select
- after pushing it I can acces velocity function by pressing key C1 (for piano players is C1, for thers I think they call it C4... anyway, the middle C, ).
- now you can choose a a value from 0 to ??? ... 9 by pressing C2 (aka C5) to Bb2 (aka Bb5).
Hope that helps in a way.

[TheGuysanIdiot]

Hi synthyboy

Just did a quick test with my M-AUDIO AXIOM 49.

Recorded a short sequence using different levels of pressure on the keys, really hard, normal playing and as light as possible.

Opened up the "Part" in the "List Editor".

I could then see the values.

Really hard playing = 127

Normal playing = 80 - 100

Extremely light playing = 5

All this was done using the M-AUDIO driver for Windows XP from the M-AUDIO web site.

I made NO changes to MU.LAB at all.

So I guess you had better read the keyboard manual and try the M-AUDIO drivers for your actual keyboard and operating system.

MU.LAB needs no modification you just need to get to know the limitations/workings of your actual keyboard.

Hope this helps.

(the above test was done on M2.7 and M3 3.0.14 - the results were the same)

OZ

[synthyboy]

Thanx OZ, you are right, I've checked my new midi-keyb with Mu lab again, it's all right !!! Good !
Voted

[synthyboy]

All my q's only around how to use new soft, because I'm new user Mu lab and trying to understand HOW IT WORKS

You're asking about your keyboard, not MU.LAB, really.

Not, you're wrong, I'm asking about my midi-keyb + Mu lab,
I'm trying to explain this situation, A t first when I put my keyb into Mu, FL, DS2 and Ableton 6 I've got a next result
-Mu Lab - have found fast my Keyb as USB plug, but plays much quieter
- FL - have found fast my Keyb as USB plug, plays ok from start
- DS 2 - have found fast my Keyb as USB plug, plays ok from start
- Ableton have not found from start, it possible yhis my fault, but I don't care about this prog, I don't like it and not going to use it.
And I was there 50 % objective, but WHEN I tried to instal M-Audio keyb DRVs
I've got everything ok I just prefer to instal into my PC a MINIMUM soft for MINIMUM MESS into the PC's register. As you know - More soft= More PC conflicts

[synthyboy]

Confirmed.
I'm not very experienced with MIDI function inside keyboards

It's ok for any guitarist So bro don't worry so :)I'm guitarist AT FIRST too and not very experienced with Midi keyb functions too, this is my first "empty" midi keyb too, as I said before I have used HARD synthes + HARD Seq's a long time for live RAVE perfomances. And after I left to use HARS synths, I used FL + their PC keyb function and still love this PC function, because it's MUCH comfortbale for step sequencing. for example for sequencing a simple drums and bass line or Minimal techno it's enough To be a honest I bought this midi - keyb for interest only ;)And may be sometimes to play a classic music

, never had a synth and I had in my life only the Radium 49 as MIDI controller

I even know a dude his has a contract with major techno label and still haven't any HARD FL only

[pljones]

- FL - have found fast my Keyb as USB plug, plays ok from start
- DS 2 - have found fast my Keyb as USB plug, plays ok from start

What does this mean in terms of the velocity response for these programs? If they ignore MIDI velocity, maybe you consider that "OK". I'd consider it broken.

[synthyboy]

What does this mean in terms of the velocity response for these programs? If they ignore MIDI velocity, maybe you consider that "OK". I'd consider it broken.

They are NOT ignored Midi velocity response, ok means - mouse - 10, midi-keyb 10, mouse -127, midi-keyb -127

[MuTools]

Just for your info: MU.LAB does not do anything special with the incoming velocities. They're played as they come in. When comparing 'loudness' in 2 different apps, then make sure you use the exact same softsynth and make sure the audio signal path is flat. In MU.LAB when you plugin a synth in a fresh rack, it's output is not affected, i.e. gain is at 0dB.

[sorohanro]

FL have an option to use velocity or not. Also have the option to link velocity to other parameters.
That can be done also from keyboard settings.
Also synthyboy, I'm not a guitarist I'm actually a trumpet player.
I learned guitar first as a kid because I thought that will make me look cool in front of the girls.

[synthyboy]

FL have an option to use velocity or not. Also have the option to link velocity to other parameters.
That can be done also from keyboard settings.
Also synthyboy, I'm not a guitarist I'm actually a trumpet player.
I learned guitar first as a kid because I thought that will make me look cool in front of the girls.

really ??? I thought you're a guitarist
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8e44b4c50e

[synthyboy]

Just for your info: MU.LAB does not do anything special with the incoming velocities. They're played as they come in. When comparing 'loudness' in 2 different apps, then make sure you use the exact same softsynth and make sure the audio signal path is flat. In MU.LAB when you plugin a synth in a fresh rack, it's output is not affected, i.e. gain is at 0dB.

Jo, this problem is gone when I installed drv's, I just thaught, if theay are palys 1 to 1, why Mu not plays 1 to 1. That was my fault, not a bug,ok
I just asking because I thought it "may be" a bug ... and just report here

[sorohanro]

FL have an option to use velocity or not. Also have the option to link velocity to other parameters.
That can be done also from keyboard settings.
Also synthyboy, I'm not a guitarist I'm actually a trumpet player.
I learned guitar first as a kid because I thought that will make me look cool in front of the girls.

really ??? I thought you're a guitarist
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8e44b4c50e

Well... also http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=273466 check the trumpet samples
But more about my music here:
http://www.mihaisorohan.net/
http://sorohanro.newgrounds.com/ here you have also a sexy photo of me

[MuTools]

sorohanro, i want to catch up. So you've made 3 packs now:

-> Rock Pack
-> Recorder
-> Trumpet

Right?

The Rock Pack is M3.

Are the Recorder and Trumpet packs also made for/with M3?

I'm asking because the big advantage of M3 preset packs is that they can be put anywhere on the computer as they use relative sample paths.

Once they're all M3 i would like to make them available via MUTOOLS.com, if that's ok for you.

Note that, if you want, you can add your info/credits/copyright to a MuSynth/MUX patch via the MuSynth/MUX Deep Editor -> Options -> Set Preset Info Text.

[sorohanro]

sorohanro, i want to catch up. So you've made 3 packs now:

-> Rock Pack
-> Recorder
-> Trumpet

Right?

The Rock Pack is M3.

There is the Bamboo pack also.
Rock Pack is M3, all the rest are M2. I'll rework on all keeping in mind all the looping, crossfading and multi layering. Probably they will get a bit bigger now that can be put anywhere in the computer.