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MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:14 am

The MU.LAB 3.0.35 patch is available in http://www.mutools.com/mulab/patch

What's changed:

Tuned: Composer + Sequence Editor: you can also zoom in on the timebar
Tuned: Finetuned target module list when choosing a target for a part, non relevant items are filtered out
Tuned: When choosing a target module for track or part, the MIDI channel is preserved
Tuned: Finetuned MU.LAB XT limits
Tuned: When changing a track from using a target module to using part target modules, the current track target is first pushed towards all parts on that track
Fixed: MU.LAB FREE MIDI in/out limit issue
+ other little tunings

Eggu · Post by **Eggu** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:44 pm

some add. thoughts to the topic "midi channel".

As far as I know, each midi event has its own channel information.
This means, the midi events in one single track can have different channels.
To cover also this situation (even though very unusual for multi track midi files, but might be relevant for older single track midi standards) ...
an add. mixed-channels mode could make sense.
--> Show (and change) channel information on a "per note/event" basis in note and list editor. And add a new mode (beside assigning a fix track or part channel), so you can choose "channel per note". Choosing a fix channel number should always work as channel-remapper, only when choosing an option "bake channel numbers" the track/part channel is copied in each single event.

Again: not too important, but this should complete the work with midi channels.

jpumphandle · Post by **jpumphandle** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:54 pm

Just more twists and turns with M3 (3.0.35) all working well.

I used one instance of Machine Creator - a unique and interesting Windows VST plugin from Synthtronic. This plugin looks for midi input on 7 different midi channels. Each channel drives a sampler with individual sounds assigned to a range of keys. It is then possible to send automation by channel using a unique M3 track. This example uses only 4 bars looped. Although I added some tempo changes to the arrangement.

Here is a view of the arrangement.

Also you can listen to the mixdown - Sump Trouble MP3

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:17 pm

Eggu wrote:some add. thoughts to the topic "midi channel".

As far as I know, each midi event has its own channel information.
This means, the midi events in one single track can have different channels.
To cover also this situation (even though very unusual for multi track midi files, but might be relevant for older single track midi standards) ...
an add. mixed-channels mode could make sense.
--> Show (and change) channel information on a "per note/event" basis in note and list editor. And add a new mode (beside assigning a fix track or part channel), so you can choose "channel per note". Choosing a fix channel number should always work as channel-remapper, only when choosing an option "bake channel numbers" the track/part channel is copied in each single event.

Again: not too important, but this should complete the work with midi channels.

This topic is on the m4 dreamlist. But that's for around q3.

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:47 pm

I've found a bug with the mixdown function on my PC. If I do a mixdown with any audio monitoring on, the result has a nasty tone all the way through.

The Kob · Post by **The Kob** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:47 pm

...is this much more CPU heavy at all?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:16 pm

robenestobenz wrote:I've found a bug with the mixdown function on my PC. If I do a mixdown with any audio monitoring on, the result has a nasty tone all the way through.

Fixed in the next version.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:18 pm

The Kob wrote:...is this much more CPU heavy at all?

No. Why do you think?

jpumphandle · Post by **jpumphandle** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:47 pm

mutools wrote:
The Kob wrote:...is this much more CPU heavy at all?
No. Why do you think?

I ran a few tests on 2.7 vs. 3.0 - I found that the CPU utilization is almost identical for both versions. There are a few MuSynth presets that can eat lots of CPU.

The Kob · Post by **The Kob** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:18 pm

mutools wrote:
The Kob wrote:...is this much more CPU heavy at all?
No. Why do you think?

i am not playing yet and was waiting for the bugs to be ironed out a bit,
just wondering really before i upgrade

The Kob · Post by **The Kob** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:19 pm

jpumphandle wrote:
mutools wrote:
The Kob wrote:...is this much more CPU heavy at all?
No. Why do you think?
I ran a few tests on 2.7 vs. 3.0 - I found that the CPU utilization is almost identical for both versions. There are a few MuSynth presets that can eat lots of CPU.

cool ta
(don't really use MuSynth...yet)

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:57 pm

MU.LAB 3.0.36 is available at

Full package: http://www.mutools.com/downloads.html
Application patch: http://www.mutools.com/mulab/patch

If you have already installed 3.0.32, you can simply apply the latest patch.

What's changed: http://www.mutools.com/mulab/changes.txt

FYI: As MU.LAB 3 has moved to pre-release stage the 'azalea' test folder has been closed. You can always find the latest MU.LAB version via the above links.

Talk soon.

MachFront · Post by **MachFront** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:38 am

So...I take it that the mouse toolbox is gone for good? Pity.

I have to say I strongly dislike double-clicking for drawing notes. Horribly slow.

So, is Ctrl+click is the only way to bring up the pencil tool in the sequence editor? Am I missing something somewhere?

I took a look around to see if there was a way to bring it up 'for good' until otherwise changed. No dice.
I poked about in the shortcut editor to see if I could make it myself (to at least bring back the clicking on the mouse wheel to change to the pencil tool)...no joy.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:57 am

MachFront, some questions:

1) If you would have a 'fixed' pencil cursor, then how to select parts/notes?

2) I understand that when you want to draw a lot of notes, the double-click may be a bit heavy, but is holding [Ctrl] to draw a bunch of note too heavy?

MachFront · Post by **MachFront** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:30 am

mutools wrote:1) If you would have a 'fixed' pencil cursor, then how to select parts/notes?

Errmm...I know you're probably asking something quite simple, but I don't follow.

mutools wrote:2) I understand that when you want to draw a lot of notes, the double-click may be a bit heavy, but is holding [Ctrl] to draw a bunch of note too heavy?

Honestly, not really. Admittedly, it's a preference thing. More a tiny annoyance than anything.
I love using the mouse and only the mouse when I can. If anything keeps my hand(s) off the keyboard, then it's preferable to me. I understand I'm likely the only person in existence that may feel that way.

The reason I liked the toolbox or the toggle with the mouse-wheel click, is because the pencil or arrow (or eraser, back when it was in the toolbox) were "always on" if you know what I mean.

Having said all of that, I completely understand that it's impossible to build something in a way that will please everyone and nigh impossible to please even the majority.

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