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@bmrzycki - Interesting...

@Breeze - Glad you're still here! And I hope you do take part in future contests. If you win again and don't feel you can accept another prize, just pass it on to the next in line (that's what I do ;) ).

And don't be put off by my arguments (I know have a tendency to *ahem* slightly over-state my case, oh well... :oops: ). If you have any more suggestions, I'd still be interested in hearing them; I'll likely agree with some and, if there are practical things that can be done, we'll give them serious consideration. :)
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bmrzycki wrote:I've toyed with the idea to write a python program for myself that will do a lot of the tedious work for me.
As long as the errors get trapped and don't cause more work, I think that's a great idea. Baby steps! :dog:


@hakey: :tu:
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I wrote a tool tonight that creates and modifies 99% of the tedius work of running the contest. The next post here shows an example post of a voting thread. I'm open to suggestions about wording, voting, etc. If we decide to do a secret ballot with PMs I can pretty easily fix the output for that too.

Let me know what y'all think.
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>>> PATCH DOWNLOAD <<<
(please see the Preset Submission Thread for more details).

VOTING DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 8 2011, 14:00 UTC

TASK: Design patches suitable for ACE's "Modular Madness" category.

Voting rules:
  • All votes are appreciated, and however one decides which patches stand out is the right way. A little feedback explaining votes is very welcome as well, just keep it short and to the point.
  • The presets have not been normalized and are presented to you as they were submitted. It's up to you, the voters, to decide if a preset appeals to you (clipping, too quiet, or just right).
  • Results will be tabulated one week from the date of this post when the poll stops running.
  • The preset awarded the most overall points wins. Best of luck to all the entrants!
  • All submitted patches will be pubilically posted on the u-he Patch Library.
Notes for patch authors:
Please no hinting or saying which preset(s) are yours. Let's keep it anonymous until voting is closed. As a patch author you must vote, and you must not vote for your own preset(s)!
WARNING: If you are caught creating multiple accounts to vote for yourself you will be immediately disqualified from this and all future patch contests.

Notes for everyone else:
Anyone on KVR is welcome to vote and if you wish to do so. See "How to Vote" below for instructions.

How to vote:
Points are awarded by voters in the following manner:
  1. 1st Place -> 5 points
  2. 2nd Place -> 4 points
  3. 3rd Place -> 3 points
  4. 4th Place -> 2 points
  5. 5th Place -> 1 points
Votes by patch authors and everyone else are weighed equally. Votes must be submitted using the following template:

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kvr_name
1. Exact patch name A
2. Exact patch name B
3. Exact patch name C
4. Exact patch name D
5. Exact patch name E
The "kvr_name" listed above is your KVR username. Next, number your patch votes exactly as shown above (from #1 to #5 and end each number with a period '.'). Please copy the exact patch names from the Voting Tally below (everything before the colon ':'). Submitting patch votes in this exact format means my automated voting tool will understand your vote and I do not have to fix your submission. If you want to add information or reasons why you voted for particular patches please post them after the voting template.
Example vote by bmrzycki wrote:bmrzycki
1. Super awesome patch!+
2. Subtle patch 1
3. funnysound
4. Grows on you?
5. Wobbler13
Great patches everyone! I especially loved the XYs on Super awesome patch!+.
Prizes:
The patch author with the most votes will receive their choice of one u-he NFR (not for resale) software product.

In the event of a tie:
If 2 or more presets tie for the winning preset then the preset with the most number of votes (regardless of numerical value) wins. If there is still a tie then we enter "sudden death". For 24 more hours anyone but the final contestants can vote for ONE of the tied patches. The person with the most sudden death votes wins. If this set of votes are STILL tied after sudden death then I (user bmrzycki) will cast the final deciding vote.

Voting tally
Another Preset:
Example Preset 1+:
Keep-em coming:
The real deal:
you guessed it!:

Authors who have not voted
awesome patch master
new entry
someone else
that one dude
user1

Patch authors
Voting still in progress.
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pcg 0.1
last updated 2011-09-12 23:13:39.325328
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Then the rules are very similar to the One-Synth-Challenge contest, except the point:
"- Voters must have had 20 prior forum posts or participated in this month's contest."
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=327452
It`s not a bug... it`s a feature!
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bmrzycki wrote:Let me know what y'all think.
There's quite a lot to take in there. I wonder whether some of it might be better in a second post?

For example, the rule about what happens with a tied vote, or this bit: "The presets have not been normalized and are presented to you as they were submitted. It's up to you, the voters, to decide if a preset appeals to you." which seems more like voting advice rather than a 'rule', so could probably go in a second post.

I'd be tempted to go through the whole thing and just remove all but the absolutely essential info. Keep it clear, concise and to the point, that way there should be less chance that someone will miss something essential (like the new voting instructions).
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Okay, here's my edit...
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>>> PATCH DOWNLOAD <<<

The task for this contest was to design patches suitable for ACE's "Modular Madness" category. Please see the Preset Submission Thread for more details.

How to vote

IMPORTANT! Votes will be entered into an automated vote counter. In order for this to work smoothly the following instructions need to be adhered to precisely. Please take the time to ensure that you understand these instructions before casting your vote.

Points are awarded in the following manner:
  1. 1st Place -> 5 points
  2. 2nd Place -> 4 points
  3. 3rd Place -> 3 points
  4. 4th Place -> 2 points
  5. 5th Place -> 1 points

Votes must be submitted using this template:

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kvr_name
1. Exact patch name A
2. Exact patch name B
3. Exact patch name C
4. Exact patch name D
5. Exact patch name E
  • Put your KVR username in place of "kvr_name".
  • Number your patch votes exactly as shown above: from #1 to #5 and end each number with a period ('.').
  • Please copy the exact patch names from the Voting Tally in the second post.
  • If you want to add information, or reasons why you voted for particular patches, please post them after the voting template.
A typical vote should look like this:
Example vote by bmrzycki wrote:bmrzycki
1. Super awesome patch!+
2. Subtle patch 1
3. funnysound
4. Grows on you?
5. Wobbler13
Great patches everyone! I especially loved the XYs on Super awesome patch!+.
Rules
  • Anyone on KVR who fulfils the following requirement is welcome to vote.
  • To be eligible to vote members need to have made 20 forum posts or to have entered patches for the contest.
  • Patch authors must vote - no vote no prize!
  • Patch authors are not allowed to vote for their own patches.
  • Patch authors should refrain from identifying their own patches during the vote.
  • Voting runs for one week from the date of this post.
  • The patch with the most votes when voting closes wins.
  • The prize is one u-he NFR (not for resale) software product.
  • I (bmrzycki) reserve the right to disqualify any author who is deemed to have engaged in foul play (for example, voting with a sock puppet).
  • Other miscellaneous rules here
VOTING DEADLINE: OCTOBER 8 2011, 14:00 UTC

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Last edited by hakey on Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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I've attempted to make it as clear as possible - both in terms of concision and ease on the eye. I've cut everything that didn't seem absolutely necessary (including underlines).

How about putting the voting tally and author vote list in the second post - seems a sensible idea to me?

And perhaps we could write up obscure rules, such as that for sorting out a tie, somewhere else and put a link at the end of the "Rules" section?
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Thanks for the input hakey! I like your revised format.

I'd still prefer to make it one post, otherwise I have to make 2 post templates and code paths in my code generator. Right now I have 1 post being made. Maybe I can place a line seperator between voting status and the rules above.
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bmrzycki wrote:I'd still prefer to make it one post
Of course, that was just a suggestion. Do whatever you think is best. :)
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Thanks for pointing me to this thread from the other one, hakey. The only suggestion that I had was not to count the votes and display it in the first post during the voting period. After going through this thread it seems like there are more issues. Anyway, If man-power is an issue please count me in as a volunteer. I love this contest and the community so I would like to help as much as I can.
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just 'marking' this thread, for later reference.
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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Next Post is my updated template I plan on using this Friday (and afterwards).
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>>> PATCH DOWNLOAD <<<
(See the Patch Submission Thread for more details.)

Task: Design patches suitable for ACE's "Modular Madness" category.

Prizes
First place will receive one u-he NFR (not for resale) software product license!

How to vote
IMPORTANT! Votes will be entered into an automated vote counter. In order for this to work smoothly the following instructions need to be adhered to precisely. Please take the time to ensure that you understand these instructions before casting your vote.

Points are awarded in the following manner:
  1. 1st Place -> 5 points
  2. 2nd Place -> 4 points
  3. 3rd Place -> 3 points
  4. 4th Place -> 2 points
  5. 5th Place -> 1 points
Votes must be submitted using this template:

Code: Select all

kvr_name
1. Exact patch name A
2. Exact patch name B
3. Exact patch name C
4. Exact patch name D
5. Exact patch name E
  • Put your KVR username in place of "kvr_name".
  • Number your patch votes exactly as shown above: from #1 to #5 and end each number with a period ('.').
  • Please copy the exact patch names from the Voting Tally below.
  • If you want to add information, or reasons why you voted for particular patches, please post them after the voting template.
A typical vote should look like this:
Example vote by bmrzycki wrote:bmrzycki
1. Super awesome patch!+
2. Subtle patch 1
3. funnysound
4. Grows on you?
5. Wobbler13
Great patches everyone! I especially loved the XYs on Super awesome patch!+.
Rules
All KVR who meet the following the following requirement are encouraged to vote!
  • All voters must have 20+ forum posts. The only exeception is a new KVR member who has submitted patches to this contest.
  • Patch authors must vote - no vote no prize!
  • Patch authors are not allowed to vote for their own patches.
  • Patch authors should refrain from identifying their own patches during the vote.
For rule all other details please go here.

VOTING DEADLINE: OCTOBER 15 2011, 14:00 UTC
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Voting tally
Patch 1:
Patch 2:
Patch 3:

Authors who have not voted
Author 1
Author 2
Author 3

Patch authors
Voting still in progress.
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pcg 0.3
last updated Wed Oct 5 23:42:09 UTC 2011
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