Initiative to help the less fortunate obtain legit software and help spread the love. Seriously.

[aciddose]

what, me?

it's like the difference between a 1982 ford fiesta and a jaguar XK. you don't need to be a auto mechanic to drive the jaguar, and although i'd prefer if you could settle on the fiesta with all the black smoke coming out of the tail pipe i really can't say it would bother me if you used a star-trek replicator to produce an XK. then again of course we don't really always want young immigrant kids having races and killing pedestrians, and who ever heard of a ford fiesta making over 20mph? where was i again?

everything i ever say starts out as a car analogy and i have to translate it you insensitive clod!

that explains why some of my posts become so incomprehensible. first i translate it to japanese, and then back again.

in soviet russia plugins pirate YOU!

imagine natalie portman driving a ford fiesta covered in hot grits.

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[Nielzie]

Maybe one month, being so inexpensive host, we could buy 10 copies of energy XT for people who have nothing to get started. or podium.
and we support the indi small dev and put fofd on their table for a month. Why the hell not.

Or MuLab

Maybe Jo, the extremely kind developer can give a good deal on it for the good cause.

[rockstar_not]

There is enough quality free stuff to let people make music... it is not like hunger or lack of healthcare...

I'm glad that this was the first post in reply. +infinity

That there were so many pages in response to the original thread is kind of surprising.

If somebody can't slake their thirst for knowledge with whats free or even on a cover DVD from Computer Musician, they are fooling themselves.

I like the sentiment, but the need to help a starving musician, if he/she already has a computer, is already satisfied by freeware from all of the un-thanked hundreds of developers here. Make do with Podium Free, Reaper eval, Energy XT CM edition, etc. etc.

You can learn about all the DSP you need to learn with the unending supply of freeware plugins here. Same for virtual instruments. In fact, many of the freewares are better for learning than pay-for software.

You'll learn how to be judicious plugin application for example to keep the CPU from coughing. Bus that reverb you are slapping on every track, etc.

Want to learn a simple mono analog VA synth - there's so many for free that are excellent they are too many to list.

Nearly every synthesis technique (I say 'nearly' just to cover myself) can be learned with freeware. In fact, most are in the good ol' Green Oak Crystal.

What is it that can't be learned by the eager with freeware?

[DreamTrance]

I live in Eastern Europe as a student,now. Here is rent 312 dollar and one room.

I have an EnergyXT2 license that I could donate to you DreamTrance, would you like that perhaps?

Very kind of you Nielze. Very kind.

I think it woul dbe very difficult for someone who has been using cubase to adapt to energy xt, i would almost even say nigh on impossible, i got to be honest.

Yes, i already read two this posts 10 min ago. Nielze,thanks for your thoughts,you are so good person.

But as Ttoz say ,after Cubase 5 (however i used it warez version,it is shame,i repeat again) ,it would be diffucul for me. Because i started to use it to produce good productions to be releaed from any label, however i didnt earn money . i have a adaptation to it and i'm not beginner.

I know a lot of people know will curse me,now .

I know it is strange . I talk about producing good productions to be released from label but i had warez version .

This forum teached me that and now i stopped producing music since manya days, i dont open it because i dont want.

[aciddose]

What is it that can't be learned by the eager with freeware?

which tools to use for which purposes, what is available and so on.

i think a lot of it comes to gear lust. i'm sure almost everybody wanted a tb-303 and a rhodes and a space echo at some point.

you get to a point where you realize the main thing holding you back is workflow, well selected quality tools and most of all talent and inspiration.

i realized the part about well selected quality tools around 2003 or so when i started to work much more on my own tools for this very reason. it's difficult to find someone who can make a better tool to suit than you can make yourself once you have the ability to do so. the problem is the huge investment and effort it requires - a revelation that motivates me to keep providing freeware in the hopes at least one person has the same needs i do.

for me though this took an awful long time. i didn't really lose interest in certain gear until i already had it for several years and realized it wasn't producing anything significantly better than what i could already do. the idea that it was a problem with me, not a problem with my methods or equipment took some time to sink in.

some of the best stuff i've produced seems to have been with the simplest tools which is in direct opposition to the idea you need specific tools to produce good results. they need to be quality but they don't need to be specific.

i have a rhodes sitting right here that i rarely use. i play it regularly but it isn't magic. just having it doesn't turn you into a ray charles over night and help you produce hit records.

that is what you can't learn with freeware.

[wwjd]

Cars analogy works.

I own a new 2011 Honda and love it. I also LOVE the new $211,000 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG and if someone were giving them away, I'd take one. OR I could strive to earn one myself. I'm not worth less as a person for driving a Honda - on the contrary, I picked it for its minimalist impact on the environment and pocket book and least realiance on Saudi oil - unlike the Mercedes... or having a CL65 doesn't make me a better person. Unless, $ worth is the only measure someone uses to measure a man....

all that said, they both have 4 wheels and get me from point A to point B at the same speed limits.

EVERYTHING I've done musically so far, I could do just as well with freeware, from DAWs to effects, it is out there and very impressive.

But if you wanna give out CL65s I'll get in line


Again, not begin negative to the idea, just tossing out alternative perspective. I'm against the "welfare" system that de-values everything *I* "Work" for. Happy to help others, but I'd rather train them to fish than give them free food.

so with that, how to find every kind of software for free and not warez?
https://www.google.com/

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[zerocrossing]

To be honest i myself am in "poor" category now, on disab pension exclusively, and it is indeed true that i own everything I have and never ever use warez....I want to help people who feel similar but are struggling.

I had an idea. It seems to me that no big devs are going to just give away software to people who are poor or disabled or both. How could they deal with it, logistically? Define "poor." Now define it if you have a computer. That's where it breaks for me.

...but, there are these things that exist to serve the public... they're called "libraries." My mom's a retired school librarian and trust me, they're all grasping for ways to keep relevant in the age of Wikipedia. They already have computers. Why not see if you could get funding for a public computer arts program? Load up some decent donated computers from a few years ago with a nice complement of music and visual art software. Doesn't have to be Logic. My friend does an awful lot of damage with an old Macbook and Garageband. People could book time on the computers the way they do now for internet access. Burn their projects on CDROMs. You could even invite people like yourself to give little seminars.

I used to work in a public multi-media/darkroom facility called "Light Work" in Syracuse, NY and we more or less had what I'm talking about sans midi keyboards. It was nearly free for SU students and very cheap for residents.

http://www.communitydarkrooms.com/