Initiative to help the less fortunate obtain legit software and help spread the love. Seriously.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[dalor]

The idea is brilliant but the trouble I see, how do you validate someone to be real and really wants and appreciates the donation and doesnt sell it on ebay the next day? I would donate software (like Cubase 6 full plus dongle) but I wouldn't trust anyone on the web just by a couple of emails. How would I know the person is even computer literate to install it?
Another issue I see is the computer hardware. Can his computer handle it? Someone who hasn't got the money to buy software most likely doesn't have the right machine/harsware to run demanding resource eating software (such as Cubase).

I guess it depends on the software to be donated..?

[AstralExistence]

Anyway, the point is there are musicians that do not have $80 left over, who get themselves into more and more red every month, and cannot afford any software at all.

I know for a fact it exists.

i think my honesty is the best your gonna get as far as your cause

[AstralExistence]

The idea is brilliant but the trouble I see, how do you validate someone to be real and really wants and appreciates the donation and doesnt sell it on ebay the next day? I would donate software (like Cubase 6 full plus dongle) but I wouldn't trust anyone on the web just by a couple of emails. How would I know the person is even computer literate to install it?
Another issue I see is the computer hardware. Can his computer handle it? Someone who hasn't got the money to buy software most likely doesn't have the right machine/harsware to run demanding resource eating software (such as Cubase).

I guess it depends on the software to be donated..?

you cant unfortunately. all you can hope for is a persons trust and to be frank, trust isnt something you find on the internet. i could have lied instead

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[rockstar_not]

Here's a thought to help educate those that are itching to learn, but supposedly can't afford to spend the time and energy; the sweat equity that is; into learning how to accomplish music production goals with freeware:

It's probably high-time to have a KVR Music Cafe monthly contest, where all tracks submitted are done using freeware; from the host to the final rendering to compressed .mp3 or .ogg file for posting; even so much as to use free hosting of files.

Seriously, the whole 9 yards.

Even though I don't like the attitude of the Reaper developer with his snarky product names and so forth, my first venture with it installed to an SD card went flawlessly in doing a simple demo track.

I say it counts as a free host for the stated purpose of the thread at the very beginning.

Only freeware VSTi and VST allowed.

Windows platform, since anyone running a Mac somehow came into some fat money to begin with and they have Garageband already.

I see that MuLab can be installed to a USB drive, so to mix at least, someone could use it or Reaper or perhaps Kristal (I don't know if that installs fully to a removable drive or not). Not alot of plugin slots, but to learn it's best to keep things simple.

Everyone gets to choose which freeware VSTi and VST they use.

Perhaps assign out some very broad genres: Rock, Tarnce, Ambient, etc.

In addition to submitting songs, a requirement would be to submit screenshots and text on how to generate the particular sound(s) in the tracks.

This would be work. It's also rewarding. I did this for some kids back when Tracktion 1 NFR was available for free for a few months. All of them now are doing music for fun and profit based on what they learned.

Who would be up for this?

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[grymmjack]

Here's a thought to help educate those that are itching to learn, but supposedly can't afford to spend the time and energy; the sweat equity that is; into learning how to accomplish music production goals with freeware:

Who would be up for this?

That sounds fun.

[glokraw]

The idea is brilliant but the trouble I see, how do you validate someone to be real and really wants and appreciates the donation and doesnt sell it on ebay the next day? I would donate software (like Cubase 6 full plus dongle) but I wouldn't trust anyone on the web just by a couple of emails. How would I know the person is even computer literate to install it?
Another issue I see is the computer hardware. Can his computer handle it? Someone who hasn't got the money to buy software most likely doesn't have the right machine/harsware to run demanding resource eating software (such as Cubase).

I guess it depends on the software to be donated..?

When this forum is up and running, people can give with verification at the
local neighborhood level, and then share the outcomes, which should
encourage those participating directly with ttoz.

edit of course nobody must wait for some green light to give something
Giving has already been happening during the kvr One Synth Challenge,
where fun is the goal, and generosity a quite natural response.

[aciddose]

Can his computer handle it? Someone who hasn't got the money to buy software most likely doesn't have the right machine/harsware to run demanding resource eating software (such as Cubase).

off topic, but that's a little silly as i can go out and get a 1.2ghz mini laptop or a used pc for about $200 right now.

i was making music with 16 stereo tracks on a pentium 200 in 1999. there were also instruments back then like big tick's rainbow which is one i remember liking the demo of quite a bit.. only it had some really silly limitation like only one oscillator

of course that took too much cpu power to use more than one channel anyway, but you could use a tracker of which many were free and have no problems at all.

ok, so maybe it wouldn't run something like cubase because it's so bloated

we're running 1.2ghz machines these days though! and the clock speed isn't everything, they're a hell of a lot more than just six times faster.

[Big Tick]

Thank you for reminding me how old I really am it had 4 oscs btw !

[dalor]

Can his computer handle it? Someone who hasn't got the money to buy software most likely doesn't have the right machine/harsware to run demanding resource eating software (such as Cubase).

off topic, but that's a little silly as i can go out and get a 1.2ghz mini laptop or a used pc for about $200 right now.

i was making music with 16 stereo tracks on a pentium 200 in 1999. there were also instruments back then like big tick's rainbow which is one i remember liking the demo of quite a bit.. only it had some really silly limitation like only one oscillator

of course that took too much cpu power to use more than one channel anyway, but you could use a tracker of which many were free and have no problems at all.

ok, so maybe it wouldn't run something like cubase because it's so bloated

we're running 1.2ghz machines these days though! and the clock speed isn't everything, they're a hell of a lot more than just six times faster.

I didn't mean to limit it to computer hardware only. Learning and knowing hardware limitations, understanding how and why software drains CPU power, working with resources you have at hand, understand latency/ASIO drivers/compatible hardware, is another thing that comes with experience over time. My point was, how do you know the software you donate will be useful to the person you give it to? I can hear complains like "I just got Reaper full version but can't run 32 tracks with effects in 96khz on my 1.2GHZ laptop without latency".

ok, so maybe it wouldn't run something like cubase because it's so bloated HiHi

You're right on that one

[aciddose]

you're right on that. if you were to donate commercial hosts or any other sort of software you'd want to be fairly certain it was going to be worth-while. demand is going to be many orders of magnitude higher than supply. (million to one?)

well, i just don't really support the idea in general. i do support education and participation and provisions for allowing someone to gain that experience though which is why i keep talking about community.

you can limit the issue though by selecting who you provide these things to based upon their experience. it's quite easy to talk with someone and figure out roughly how much they know.

"so which hosts have you tried before?" and "what genres of music have you done?" and those sorts of questions would pick out a young newbie in an instant. replies would be very trendy software and genres only, and rarely if ever free or lesser known.

i think that's the idea with this 5-person panel of judges.

[dalor]

i think that's the idea with this 5-person panel of judges.

Hmm one could make a live stream web show out of it: 5 judges infront of their webcams judging the applicants who need to solve mini challenges in front of the webcam, all in realtime on the fly using their favourite DAW and tools, timed with a countdown. Challenges may vary from sampling manipulation, arranging, sound/patch design, analyzing, mixing, compression, etc..