Most CPU efficient host?
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i think what we can conclude from the poll results is that reaper users are the least educated and most arrogant.
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Work less; get more done.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
if you ask me I think this thread has run it's course 
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- KVRAF
- 13124 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I think that's a good point. I use a lot of CPU intensive instruments an effects (Bazille, Diva, Reaktor, etc.) and some effects I use on every channel (McDSP Channel G) on projects with tons of channels. I have not had to worry about CPU overages in a number of years. I know I don't speak for everyone in that regard but in general, even the cheapest modern computers are fast enough to handle real-time audio at low latencies, no matter which DAW you use.koolkeys wrote:With that being said, even some of the "heavier" hosts I use are typically not enough to worry about on any semi-modern system. The host portion itself isn't terribly significant with any of them.
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- KVRAF
- 2336 posts since 13 Oct, 2002 from Terra Firma
Down at Reaper HQ all 69 of us are having a good rub down with alcohol after a weeks campaigning for our DAW. It feels good to run with the herd and shout our name loud and clear for all to hear. Now all we need to do is get rid of Obama and Romney and world domination is ours.
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- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
And they say the American Empire is in decline....they need to hang out on KVR and watch real democracy in action.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I edited out the potential hpc stuff
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
has anyone really tested this though? i've seen claims in this thread that reaper manages threading more efficiently which is certainly possible. there are a lot of stupid things you can do (flushing the cache, etc) and if reaper does things correctly it could easily beat out other hosts that simply do them wrong.
when voting though is that what people are referring to? i've been assuming the majority of the votes have been "yeah reaper has the most efficient work-flow" without bothering to read the thread or understand the question. (thus: "least educated and most arrogant.")
just having a chain of plugins in the same channel i'm not able to measure any over-head at all. as it should be. in my own code if i chain several plugins one after the other 99.9+ percent of the time is spent inside the plugin code, not the host.
it's just a really silly poll.
when voting though is that what people are referring to? i've been assuming the majority of the votes have been "yeah reaper has the most efficient work-flow" without bothering to read the thread or understand the question. (thus: "least educated and most arrogant.")
just having a chain of plugins in the same channel i'm not able to measure any over-head at all. as it should be. in my own code if i chain several plugins one after the other 99.9+ percent of the time is spent inside the plugin code, not the host.
it's just a really silly poll.
Free plug-ins for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Xhip Synthesizer v8.0 and Xhip Effects Bundle v6.7.
The coder's credo: We believe our work is neither clever nor difficult; it is done because we thought it would be easy.
Work less; get more done.
The coder's credo: We believe our work is neither clever nor difficult; it is done because we thought it would be easy.
Work less; get more done.
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
well i don't want to believe anything because i really don't care much no matter what the truth is. i'm only curious 
there is rarely a point in trying to have any sort of discussion with someone about a topic they do not understand.
i think i get to see the issue a little differently through my access to a little insight into the technical aspects.
there is rarely a point in trying to have any sort of discussion with someone about a topic they do not understand.
i think i get to see the issue a little differently through my access to a little insight into the technical aspects.
Free plug-ins for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Xhip Synthesizer v8.0 and Xhip Effects Bundle v6.7.
The coder's credo: We believe our work is neither clever nor difficult; it is done because we thought it would be easy.
Work less; get more done.
The coder's credo: We believe our work is neither clever nor difficult; it is done because we thought it would be easy.
Work less; get more done.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505 - KVRAF
- 8006 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Now did anybody bother to actually compare Logic and Reaper CPU wise?
Because in my experience Logic beat the crap out of every other DAW this way, and I would be surprised if it was any different with Reaper?
I only have Logic 8, but I could test it later tonight if people want. Typically I've just loaded a track with a fairly heavy synth like Absynth and put the exact same patch on every track until you get crackles in the audio. Disc streaming and the like are all pretty dammed good across the board; it's really about CPU use IMO.
Because in my experience Logic beat the crap out of every other DAW this way, and I would be surprised if it was any different with Reaper?
I only have Logic 8, but I could test it later tonight if people want. Typically I've just loaded a track with a fairly heavy synth like Absynth and put the exact same patch on every track until you get crackles in the audio. Disc streaming and the like are all pretty dammed good across the board; it's really about CPU use IMO.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 8006 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Plus, it's pretty sad that anybody would vote for Live. I'm a user and fan, but it's a CPU pig due to the real time nature of the program and shouldn't even be in the 'contest'.
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- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
very small rocks?
Free plug-ins for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Xhip Synthesizer v8.0 and Xhip Effects Bundle v6.7.
The coder's credo: We believe our work is neither clever nor difficult; it is done because we thought it would be easy.
Work less; get more done.
The coder's credo: We believe our work is neither clever nor difficult; it is done because we thought it would be easy.
Work less; get more done.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
How could I compare logic? It's not PC
Seriously though when I used logic, it hogged one core and left the other largely untouched. Hopefully, that has been changed (I was the fabulous and inexpensive 7.2.3
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Anyways, reap is the lightest/least intrusive host there is......feel free to dl it and check for yourself. I look forward to the results......regardless.
Seriously though when I used logic, it hogged one core and left the other largely untouched. Hopefully, that has been changed (I was the fabulous and inexpensive 7.2.3
)Anyways, reap is the lightest/least intrusive host there is......feel free to dl it and check for yourself. I look forward to the results......regardless.
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- KVRAF
- 6323 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from London uk
Its fairly well known that Cubase on Mac isnt as efficient as on PC. Therefore all DAWs would need to be assesed on Mac and PC. Quite a task. IMHO it seems that some DAws suit certain plugs better than others.
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