Anyway it was possible before, but there are several things that just didn't work that well. The color management for example...
Please help us choose the fonts for the first style!
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Aaaah
. Actually kind of like it
. It will save some space.
Anyway it was possible before, but there are several things that just didn't work that well. The color management for example...
Anyway it was possible before, but there are several things that just didn't work that well. The color management for example...
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You need a color manager...MeldaProduction wrote:Aaaah. Actually kind of like it
. It will save some space.
Anyway it was possible before, but there are several things that just didn't work that well. The color management for example...
I love Meldaplugs because of all these features and the possibility to "modulate the modulator"
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Well, they will always be deep, but hopefully the new styles will make it "warmer" 
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No matter if with or without borders, IMO there are still too many controls on the front page. What about more tabs or windows that can be switched on and off, for example the frame with the waveform in a separate window?
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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You would really like that? I mean that's the first thing one looks at - the waveform. Right now, everything that could be hidden is hidden. For the examples I chose the chorus, which is probably the most "full of parameters", but still...Tricky-Loops wrote:No matter if with or without borders, IMO there are still too many controls on the front page. What about more tabs or windows that can be switched on and off, for example the frame with the waveform in a separate window?
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I'm not a fan of tendosynovitis (Tendovaginitis?), so to speak.Tricky-Loops wrote:No matter if with or without borders, IMO there are still too many controls on the front page. What about more tabs or windows that can be switched on and off, for example the frame with the waveform in a separate window?
One-page-access has a reason.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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Huh? What the hell is "tendosynovitis"? 
Anyway I'm personally the fan of one-page-access too. Tabs have always scared me. Sometimes, like in modulators, there's no other way, but when possible, let's show everything. Just make it easy to navigate.
Anyway I'm personally the fan of one-page-access too. Tabs have always scared me. Sometimes, like in modulators, there's no other way, but when possible, let's show everything. Just make it easy to navigate.
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I'm a fan of separatovitis because if there are so many controls, I feel absolutely overwhelmed and loose control over my music...MeldaProduction wrote:Huh? What the hell is "tendosynovitis"?
Anyway I'm personally the fan of one-page-access too. Tabs have always scared me. Sometimes, like in modulators, there's no other way, but when possible, let's show everything. Just make it easy to navigate.
So I prefer something like this with only a few knobs where you can go deeper by choosing the EDIT tab:

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Agree about the framed boxes - waay too distracting when they're close together versus just plain annoying when there's so many on screen. Also agree about the spacing.elassi wrote:Ok, did the left part of the param-boxes, too. It's still distracting because they're to close to each other...
Question: Is the important info the info in the box or the box frame containing the info?
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TenosynovitisMeldaProduction wrote:Huh? What the hell is "tendosynovitis"?
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Agree, but it often feels like borders help with the panels. But I like the borderless stuff from ellasi! So let's try it
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There's also one more thing - CPU requirements, it is always faster to just paint borders than alphablending the whole region.
There's also one more thing - CPU requirements, it is always faster to just paint borders than alphablending the whole region.
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elassi wrote:This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TenosynovitisMeldaProduction wrote:Huh? What the hell is "tendosynovitis"?
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There's already a reduced "Front tab" in MPlugins.Tricky-Loops wrote:So I prefer something like this with only a few knobs where you can go deeper by choosing the EDIT tab:
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Ah...you used the term 'Navigate' - but, isn't the issue 'Operate' - Agree with TrickyL - seeing all parameters at once doesn't help with operating when one has to navigate the feeling of being overwhelmed.MeldaProduction wrote:Huh? What the hell is "tendosynovitis"?
Anyway I'm personally the fan of one-page-access too. Tabs have always scared me. Sometimes, like in modulators, there's no other way, but when possible, let's show everything. Just make it easy to navigate.
Your plugins are awesome. Maybe because they're complex. But isn't the point of an efficient GUI to minimize the complexity? Maybe a solution is to have a switchable interface as seen in the Klanghelm plugins - Simple interface for the 'normal user' and a complex 'tweak freak' all-the-parameters-all-the-time one for the nerds.
That's my simplistic minimal input. Hope it helps.
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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Sure, but it's still very busy and complex for some (many). Not saying there only needs to be a one-button preset interface, but, there is more visual clutter than required, IMO.elassi wrote:There's already a reduced "Front tab" in MPlugins.Tricky-Loops wrote:So I prefer something like this with only a few knobs where you can go deeper by choosing the EDIT tab:
perception: the stuff reality is made of.

