Really? KVR ignores a new compressor plugin practically completely?

[bungle]

from a no-name developer

Funniest thing i have read in a while, this developer is definitely one of my favorites, and i can tell you his releases are used a lot by those who know about them

[mystran]

Ok, I completely missed this thread, and I was looking at some server statistics earlier and wondering what was going on with a sudden spike... guess this explains it.

Anyway, some more specific answers first:

- the ratio being in percentage is arguably a bit unconventional, I am aware of that, but I really think it's more logical this way, especially once past 100% which is "infinite" in the traditional sense. But it's the same thing, just expressed as percentage of reduction in terms of input increase. Here's some examples of conversions: 50% = 2:1, 75% = 4:1 and 90% = 10:1.

- the range control: it essentially soft-clips the raw detected level, so it will set the maximum amount of gain reduction, but also has the side effect of evening out the attack behavior if there is too much variation in input transients

- the clipper algorithm is the same one used in TSClip

- if something in the manual is unclear or doesn't make sense, please let me know; it's the first proper manual I've ever attempted to write, so might not be that great in it's current state

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There are a couple of reasons I just released this fairly quietly: first, it's something that I have had in nearly finished state for at least a year now (and in development for much longer), so I just wanted to get it done.

So I did the beta cycles with the final builds a bit quickly and so opted not to promote it in KVR too much (just added to database; I had a news announcement written, but decided against it, then got distracted, see below) to avoid a traffic spike so I could sort out any problems that might surface without having to deal with too many at the same time. I have quite steady traffic on my site, so I figured if there would be problems I'd get enough reports that way.

Second, I wanted to see how long it would take for the traffic to build up without me promoting things explicitly. That way, next time I do post a news announcement, I can compare what happens. It's sometimes nice to get an idea of just how much effect different things have on your traffic, to try to get an idea of how the word spreads and such. Finally, right after I had added this to the database, there was a sudden spike in "other stuff" in my inbox (last month has been busier than the whole last year combined), so I got a bit distracted.

But, as some people mentioned, I don't like to do a lot of promotion of my own stuff and that's a conscious choice really. I'd rather work on figuring out how to make better plugins, instead of spending time on figuring out how to market them. The whole plugin stuff is a labor of love for me, it's mostly a hobby and it's not really that important for me whether I maximize my audience. What matters to me is whether people like my stuff (and which things they like, which they don't) and so I just like to see what people think, instead of trying to influence them too much.

Having maintained several plugins for a few years now, I know the good stuff eventually gets noticed anyway, not a big deal for me if it takes a while. If something doesn't attract any attention, then probably it's not really good enough to deserve it either.

[glokraw]

Having maintained several plugins for a few years now, I know the good stuff eventually gets noticed anyway, not a big deal for me if it takes a while. If something doesn't attract any attention, then probably it's not really good enough to deserve it either.

Since I was a late arrival, I would ask,
who exactly benefits from eventually, as compared to immediately?
I would say nobody. For all the difficult learning and work it takes
to produce these plugins, I would think some regimen of
announcements and followups would be in order, not just to promote
yourself, but to insure maximizing the impact of your efforts.
That said, I tried a few of your creations, and really enjoy the results

I made a guitar setup, starting with

guitar into a dustbucket chorus, and tila2

tila2 into the GrindMachine highgain ampsim (set to low gain/output)

dustbucket to the 3-head nrr1 preamp, and abstract-chamber

abstract-chamber, nrr1, and grindmachine to the outputs

This put great control and diverse sound on the simple controls
of the nrr1 and grindmachine, from pristine and deep ambience,
to extreme punch&crunch. The desired type of reverb
can be brought forth with the amp heads input, gain,
and volume controls.
I also experimented sending the chorus to tila2, and tila2
to abstract-chamber, for some very unusual and deep ambience.
Will do more exploring, and try the morphing filter soon.
Thanks for sharing these fine effects.
Long live Spring Break !!! !!!

[arkmabat]

He made a payware EQ, didn't he? This guy is a good coder from what I've tried out.

[arkmabat]

from a no-name developer

Funniest thing i have read in a while, this developer is definitely one of my favorites, and i can tell you his releases are used a lot by those who know about them

People use his reverbs all the time; we should know the name of the company by now

[bmanic]

Wow! Completely missed this one. Thanks for the heads up!

Every single Mystran/Signaldust plugin is worth an immediate download.. so downloading now immediately!

And it's a compressor!!!! I LOOOOOVE compressors!

[DuX]

I tested it a few weeks ago and got pleasantly surprised, as with all of mystran's plugins, generally.

[Spitfire31]

What matters to me is whether people like my stuff (and which things they like, which they don't)

One thing I don't like is that fact that your plugs, while of excellent quality judging from others' posts, are not yet (?) available for Mac OS!

I really hope that you can rectify that (IMHO) deficiency.

Kind regards,

Joachim

[mystran]

What matters to me is whether people like my stuff (and which things they like, which they don't)

One thing I don't like is that fact that your plugs, while of excellent quality judging from others' posts, are not yet (?) available for Mac OS!

It's a long term goal, and I've done some work over the last years to try to move any platform dependent code into well-defined abstractions to make it eventually easier to port things. When I started plugin development, I had quite a bit of platform Windows dependent code all over the place, but since then most of that has been fixed and pretty much the only thing left holding me back is the fact that I don't currently have an OSX box to develop for.

I can't make any promises, but it looks like I might be able to invest into said hardware at some point later this year, at which point it will then probably take (at least) a few months to learn the APIs and solve all the problems that will emerge. Whether I can get some OSX builds out later this year, I don't know, but I just wanted to point out that OSX support is (and has been for a while now) a long-term goal.

[Teksonik]

I really hope that you can rectify that (IMHO) deficiency.

Buy him a Mac...........

[Numanoid]

Seeing that many new plugins here are greeted with multi page threads even before they are even released, this is odd... .

Nobody here get paid to talk about plugs (at least I don't)

So a plug gets attention if users are interested in it.

A good way to get attention, could maybe be to do like some developers to include software that checks that all licences on your computer is legit, or to use iLok or such copy protection. That ususally leads to 10+ pages of feedback, maybe not all good feedback, but from an advertisers standpoint all attention is good attention

[aciddose]

mystran; Like I suggested a few posts back, have you considered maybe delegating a bit of the marketing to some fans here on the forum?

Since you can add delegates / admins to allow some control of your product pages and still maintain absolute control over the pages to make edits or remove delegates if someone were to post something you didn't agree with.

That would let you free yourself from having to bother too much with that sort of thing at the same time curing the apparent wrong perceived by some forum members regarding the lack of notice

I understand the "I'd like to just get it done and have a chance to test with a smaller group first" thinking, I find it is worth the effort to do smaller beta tests. If you can get together a group of fans who you can email privately without releasing anything it saves you from the effect I think you're trying to avoid - where people download a plugin, try it for a minute and experience a bug, then toss it out without even bothering to report the bug! Top of the list of horrible sins with regard to software!

Those people you just have to get comfortable knowing they never really cared in the first place though.

[aciddose]

Regarding OSX: it would sure help if using OSX for a programmer was less like being horribly tortured in exchange for payment ten times what you'd have paid for an otherwise perfectly enjoyable experience on Windows.

Believe me, you don't know hatred until you've attempted to write code using Apple software.



The sweat stain might be amusing in combination with that little dance he does, but if you actually listen to his message this is one thing they got right.

[bmanic]

After a few hours of testing this compressor on various sources I have to say that I'm really liking it a lot! It has it's own unique behavior that I'm finding quite refreshing. It can easily be very aggressive but yet subtle.. hard to explain. Very cool setting for a sloppy kick or tom is 15 to 20ms attack, fastest release, ratio at around 110% and then use the threshold and range knobs to get around 3dB of gain reduction. Spice with the wet/dry knob to taste. Boom! Instant attack and punch to the drums. Obviously aggressive yet not destroying the original at all.. with just a dB or two it's almost invisible until you remove the plugin and you notice something serious is missing.

Very nice!

Cheers!
bManic

[DuX]

Have they finally put this guy [Steve Ballmer] in a nice warm place with people in white coats to take good care of him?