Tracktion Software

multree · Post by **multree** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:33 am

Hey Jules,

I've been there the whole week ....but didn't find the Mackie booth.....

Ben said he has seen you, but I have not - and I would've like to say "thank you"

and maybe even "hi"

cheers,
mully

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:12 pm

jules wrote:hello. Sorry I've not been keeping up to date recently, I've been away for a week at MusikMesse and am now in bed the flu, so I'm a bit frazzled and might not be talking complete sense..

Yes, tracktion uses a -6db centre pan law, which I thought was a good basic pan type. I'd like to add more options one day.

And Jens, if panning something makes it louder than you want it to be, it's a lot quicker to just dip the volume slightly than to come on KVR and mouth off about my software being unprofessional. Sort out your attitude if you expect any help on these things.

1. I never wrote that your software is 'unprofessional'! - if I did why should I bother
to compare it with other 'pro'-software?

2. It's nice to see YOUR attitude towards your
customers who have serious reasons to complain.

chico.co.uk · Post by **chico.co.uk** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:21 pm

jens wrote: 1. I never wrote that your software is 'unprofessional'!

"raising the gain while panning is complete and utter amateur bollocks!"

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:35 pm

chico.co.uk wrote:
jens wrote: 1. I never wrote that your software is 'unprofessional'!
"raising the gain while panning is complete and utter amateur bollocks!"

yes, which translates into:

"This certain feature of Tracktion is handled in an
amateur-like style" - it's not the same as calling
the whole application being 'unprofessional' as you
have to admit.

sardaukar · Post by **sardaukar** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:09 pm

jules wrote:hello. Sorry I've not been keeping up to date recently, I've been away for a week at MusikMesse and am now in bed the flu, so I'm a bit frazzled and might not be talking complete sense..

Yes, tracktion uses a -6db centre pan law, which I thought was a good basic pan type. I'd like to add more options one day.

And Jens, if panning something makes it louder than you want it to be, it's a lot quicker to just dip the volume slightly than to come on KVR and mouth off about my software being unprofessional. Sort out your attitude if you expect any help on these things.

Hope you get well soon Jules. Hope your flu is not stress related. Don't let your work affect your health. I know its your 'baby'. But remember, a happy father, means a happy baby

multree · Post by **multree** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:15 pm

oh come on... we all know that jens loves tracktion as much as everybody else.... he just found something which isn't implemented in the best possible way

he just wants Tracktion to be even better...

maybe his tone was a bit ...well over the top... but don't take it too personal (I'm sure it was never ment this way)

let's eat some kittens ...eerrr? well no let's not

MAY I VOTE FOR MORE LOVE, TOO
cheers,
mully

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:22 pm

Nah fuckit, let's start arguing.

multree · Post by **multree** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:36 pm

chagzuki wrote:Nah fuckit, let's start arguing.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:14 pm

thanks, Alex

- yes, I probably have been a bit over the top, but it is soooo frustrating - I have
experienced so many problems with Tracktion during the last weeks - I have lost a lot of time and work...

- but I am only repeating myself - Tracktion IS
the future that's for sure - but I need it to WORK
NOW - I couldn't care less for Jules' success -
I guess he doesn't care about mine - what I want
is a product that does what it pretends to do -

Who cares for revolution tommorow if he needs
to eat today?

Mackie are allready talking about selling v2
while v1 still has so many quirks

I really wished I could recommend Tracktion
to everyone at the moment but I'd be a liar.
What shall I tell my friends when they e.g. ask me why rendering a three minute song takes nearly ten minutes?

piaz · Post by **piaz** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:37 am

I have to admit you are right, my last experiences w/ Tracktion have been disastrous! Overload even with ancient projects (i.e. previously working) with vers 1.5.3, disappearing edits (though this might be coming from scandisk?), and lots of minor hitches with MIDI.

I do love the software, but as a 6 or so months user, the last updates chilled me. Now I'm waiting for the next release.

And I agree the panning law is a bit of a troublemaker, but it's really quickly sorted.

christianmusicmaker · Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:53 pm

piaz wrote:I have to admit you are right, my last experiences w/ Tracktion have been disastrous! Overload even with ancient projects (i.e. previously working) with vers 1.5.3, disappearing edits (though this might be coming from scandisk?), and lots of minor hitches with MIDI.

I do love the software, but as a 6 or so months user, the last updates chilled me. Now I'm waiting for the next release.

And I agree the panning law is a bit of a troublemaker, but it's really quickly sorted.

Are you still having problems with the latest build?

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:25 pm

at least my problems with this new build are bigger than ever before...

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:57 pm

Well I personally dont even consider using tracktion for mixing down and audio recording. I'm sure it is fitting for some, but I prefer using my bought copy of Adobe Audition. It's specifically made for mixing down, recording audio, etc... I use tracktion for sequencing, which is so simple and a marvel. I was in a musical rut due to my software and I didn't even know it. In one night I wrote and produced a song. Stop bad talking this stuff. If you're concerned in panning properly, get a program thats made for mixing/mastering

RonC

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:21 pm

rpc9943 wrote:Well I personally dont even consider using tracktion for mixing down and audio recording. I'm sure it is fitting for some, but I prefer using my bought copy of Adobe Audition. It's specifically made for mixing down, recording audio, etc... I use tracktion for sequencing, which is so simple and a marvel. I was in a musical rut due to my software and I didn't even know it. In one night I wrote and produced a song. Stop bad talking this stuff. If you're concerned in panning properly, get a program thats made for mixing/mastering

RonC

I couldn't be bothered to use two different applications for these tasks you mentioned. Recording and sequnecing go hand in hand for me, mixing as well. Never even in my worst mightmares I'd consider to use different applications for it in the same song.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:49 pm

then perhaps you should migrate to something else that won't make you upset the programmer.

RonC

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