Best reverb, for all jobs? (ongoing process)
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- KVRian
- 1401 posts since 9 Feb, 2012
hibidy: Based on your comments about other reverbs, you may really owe it to yourself to try Exponential Phoenix, if you haven't already.
I find it to be the most "convolution-like" of algorithmic reverbs... yet better for me (with a nod to Valhalla Room, as well).
Sort of that "more human than human" Tyrell thing, I guess.
Regarding CSR: I see X-Verb as its futuristic evolution and LX480 as its pure refinement.
All Lind's reverbs are useful here (IK, SSL, Relab).
I find it to be the most "convolution-like" of algorithmic reverbs... yet better for me (with a nod to Valhalla Room, as well).
Sort of that "more human than human" Tyrell thing, I guess.
Regarding CSR: I see X-Verb as its futuristic evolution and LX480 as its pure refinement.
All Lind's reverbs are useful here (IK, SSL, Relab).
WEASEL: World Electro-Acoustic Sound Excitation Laboratories
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 4 Jul, 2007
I can't imagine one reverb for all jobs. Until recently I had an H8000 that cost me $4500 and even that was only good for certain tasks.
As of today, for me -
Big spacey/modulating/unreal - B2 (my most used verb)
For vox and pads - Eventide Blackhole
Percussion - I don't mind the Audiodamage EOS (although it has the strangest non-linear wet/dry control - it goes from zero to about 20% when you change it from 0% to 1%!) and the stock cubase Reverence is not bad either
A long time ago I tried IK CSR and Toraverb (I think I actually bought Toraverb as part of a package) but didn't like either - they sound like that first generation of reverb vstis where everything sounds too metallic for my taste (although from memory that IK had an interesting reverse reverb - or was that Breverb? Can't recall...)
As of today, for me -
Big spacey/modulating/unreal - B2 (my most used verb)
For vox and pads - Eventide Blackhole
Percussion - I don't mind the Audiodamage EOS (although it has the strangest non-linear wet/dry control - it goes from zero to about 20% when you change it from 0% to 1%!) and the stock cubase Reverence is not bad either
A long time ago I tried IK CSR and Toraverb (I think I actually bought Toraverb as part of a package) but didn't like either - they sound like that first generation of reverb vstis where everything sounds too metallic for my taste (although from memory that IK had an interesting reverse reverb - or was that Breverb? Can't recall...)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I dunno. I just know that I always poo-poo'ed the IK verbs and I've had the "hall" since forever in some group buy and decided to try it lately and was like "oh, this is pretty good"
Funny how times change.
@Breverb: This might be my most hated reverb of all times
(sorry breverb lovers)
Funny how times change.
@Breverb: This might be my most hated reverb of all times
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- KVRAF
- 11994 posts since 12 May, 2008
I used to have the IK CSR before VVV and what struck me about it was how useful it felt for reverb that glued to the source and actually made it feel like it was in a space. I even had ValhallaRoom at the time which I loved for the really lon glush verbs, but I preferred CSR for shorter ones, or even natural halls without too much decay. Once VVV came along, I was very happy to replace them because I'd much rather one plug-in with different algos than 4 different plug-ins. Plus it sounded even better.hibidy wrote:I dunno. I just know that I always poo-poo'ed the IK verbs and I've had the "hall" since forever in some group buy and decided to try it lately and was like "oh, this is pretty good"
Funny how times change.
@Breverb: This might be my most hated reverb of all times(sorry breverb lovers)
Anyways this is the ironic thing to me, I actually think these classic algortihms sound quite realistic. Same goes for the NI RC verbs. These verbs modeled after vintage units I find give a more preferable room sound (to me) than something like ValhallaRoom, which was meant to improve on those. Even B2, which is my favorite for long reverb washes (as I find it doesn't get too muddy) is also great for shorter room type verbs but honestly I find the vintage emulations to be just as convincing for a sense of spatialization.
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 6 Jul, 2012 from Sick-cily
@hibidy: Anyway the Breverb, for absence of character (imo) could be used in a lot of sounds... (cause have the advantage to be light on CPU)
If I use the Valhalla Shimmer is because i need a big arious character (for example on some kind of female vocals)
@Kindred: the Eventide hardware stuff are all monstruous (also price) instruments and imo also some "cheap" (just for the low price) hardware as TC Electronic (perhaps i think the M1, can't reminds), Lexicon, Alesis etc etc it would be better of plugins...
If I use the Valhalla Shimmer is because i need a big arious character (for example on some kind of female vocals)
@Kindred: the Eventide hardware stuff are all monstruous (also price) instruments and imo also some "cheap" (just for the low price) hardware as TC Electronic (perhaps i think the M1, can't reminds), Lexicon, Alesis etc etc it would be better of plugins...
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- KVRist
- 31 posts since 28 Jul, 2014
So many choices, do any stand out compared to other reverbs? I mean I imagine there's only so much a reverb can do, don't see how there can be a big variety.
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- KVRer
- 27 posts since 28 Apr, 2004
The low-end TC reverbs are totally lame (I have the G-Force, Fireworx and have access to a M-One). TC M2000 is probably the most affordable TC reverb that sounds good.Turello wrote:... imo also some "cheap" (just for the low price) hardware as TC Electronic (perhaps i think the M1, can't reminds), Lexicon, Alesis etc etc it would be better of plugins...
For cheap hardware reverb I'd recommend Lexicon Reflex & Alex (in that order) and the little box nobody knows: DBX 290.
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- KVRAF
- 2747 posts since 13 Feb, 2012 from Amsterdam
Yup, there is a large variety. Just demo the three Valhalla reverbs side by side for starters, very different. And that just the beginning, now throw in your stock reverb and then Verberate and 2C Breeze. Different again.SoundDigest wrote:So many choices, do any stand out compared to other reverbs? I mean I imagine there's only so much a reverb can do, don't see how there can be a big variety.
You could choose not to worry about it, but where's the fun in that?
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 6 Jul, 2012 from Sick-cily
@rdnzl: The TC M-One don't sounds so bad imo (especially in Rock production) and also the Lexicon MX series... Don't know the DBX but (by Google images) seems interesting (and get best result than a lot of plugins)...
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- KVRian
- 652 posts since 17 Mar, 2002 from Paris
Have you tried SKNotes's version, the Rev250?.. http://www.sknote.it/Rev250.htmhibidy wrote:Ouch on the price though. 135 USD right now
I did get a life,once...but it was faulty, so I sent it back.
