I'll define Noise for you........ it's what I hear coming out of your big mouth. How's that ego boy ?aciddose wrote:You need to account for what "noise" is before you make such an assertion.Teksonik wrote:If you have to add noise to emulate the hardware that just proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that software is superior.
Define "noise".
You mean plain flat white noise? Actually the "noise" from a circuit is gaussian and rarely even close to white especially from the sources in an analog audio circuit.
My definition of noise has nothing to do with "flat white noise". Noise is a signal which is unintentionally (or indirectly) included in a measurement.
So all you've "proven" with your assertion is you don't know what you're talking about.
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To me, noise is just another colouration to add to my sounds. 
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Barry
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If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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I'll make a valid assertion:
Given that we define noise as an undesirable component in a measurement;
Any system which reduces noise will provide a more accurate measurement.
This is very non-specific though! It's an obvious general statement. It's circular logic!
Of course if we define X as undesirable we can state that anything without X is more desirable accounting only for the presence of X than anything else.
That's just dumb!
Given that we define noise as an undesirable component in a measurement;
Any system which reduces noise will provide a more accurate measurement.
This is very non-specific though! It's an obvious general statement. It's circular logic!
Of course if we define X as undesirable we can state that anything without X is more desirable accounting only for the presence of X than anything else.
That's just dumb!
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Thank you for the insults and personal attacks, but they won't help distract from the fact you're wrong.Teksonik wrote:I'll define Noise for you........ it's what I hear coming out of your big mouth. How's that ego boy ?
Typically when you are cornered and have no other way to escape these sort of attacks are used in order to provide an opportunity for escape, a distraction.
This is nothing other than a sign of the weakness of your points/argument.
You are better off reforming your argument or admitting you are wrong.
Have some decency!
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I think it should....V0RT3X wrote:I predict a thread lock.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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Yep.....nothing but noise coming out of that pie hole...........
Get a sense of humor dude.........(Aciddose)
Get a sense of humor dude.........(Aciddose)
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DIVA-the new Lady Gaga of the synth world
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
This isn't a joke thread. I was making a valid point, you decided to attack me personally rather than even touch the argument I was making.
What drives you to do this? I can only speculate that you are in denial, this is a defensive mechanism due to your inability to admit you are wrong.
What drives you to do this? I can only speculate that you are in denial, this is a defensive mechanism due to your inability to admit you are wrong.
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Work less; get more done.
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Couldn't help laughing at this one. That's more like it. Back to KVR style.Teksonik wrote:I'll define Noise for you........ it's what I hear coming out of your big mouth. How's that ego boy ?
I leave my scientific self in the closet and call up one of the other.
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- KVRAF
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Who you referring to?
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Don't know, we' ll see who comes forward.trimph1 wrote:Who you referring to?
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It was a JOKE..............aciddose wrote:Have some decency!
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- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
Trimph1;
My post was pointed at teksonic.
Saying that Diva = ladygaga is a perfectly valid observation although off-topic... I'd never try to claim you came anywhere near making a personal attack. In fact your post had absolutely nothing to do with any forum member.
My post was pointed at teksonic.
Saying that Diva = ladygaga is a perfectly valid observation although off-topic... I'd never try to claim you came anywhere near making a personal attack. In fact your post had absolutely nothing to do with any forum member.
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Work less; get more done.
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Work less; get more done.
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Actually yes.Teksonik wrote:Grown men arguing over "noise"....you went to school for that ?
Did you go to school?
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Work less; get more done.
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Work less; get more done.
