KVR Audio

ke2041 · Post by **ke2041** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:18 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I bought a Microbrute for less than the upgrade price lol

yep but the Microbrute is "just" a monosynth

and even if it is a very nice one you really can not compare it with the VCollection.

Software can be seen as no value compared to hardware but this is still the result of the work on people who need to pay their bill and so need be paid for their work

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:23 pm

Hmm, since updating quite a few of them have bits missing from the GUI and dont produce audio

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:26 pm

braj wrote:I know it will be unpopular, but I think Arturia should go the subscription route and sell each synth individually at $99 or so for people that don't like subscriptions. Then they never have to deal with upgrade pricing schemes that piss people off.

It's easy as they only need to create a fair upgrade path. It's not like it's rocket science isn't it?

I get the impression they just want to make sure that most people jump on the next sales train when they sell the v6 update 50% off = 99€..

I'm glad i didn't bought v5 this year when (how it looks now) i can jump straight to v6 for the same price as v4 owner.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:28 pm

Kevin [Arturia] wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I bought a Microbrute for less than the upgrade price lol
yep but the Microbrute is "just" a monosynth and even if it is a very nice one you really can not compare it with the VCollection.

Software can be seen as no value compared to hardware but this is still the result of the work on people who need to pay their bill and so need be paid for their work

Kevin, not arguing with that one bit. Of course you should get paid for your work. The problem is, for V5 owners, the math just doesn't add up.

For brand new buyers who own no Arturia products, the full retail price is $499 for 21 instruments. That comes out to $24 per instrument.

In 2014, I paid $199 for the V4 collection because it was on sale at the time. That was my entry into Arturia land. A year later, I paid another $199 upgrade for V5 collection for what came out to 4 new products. Now you're asking another $199 for 4 new products. That's $50 per. Twice what it costs new owners.

So I'm paying $600 over 3 years for a product that new buyers right now can get for $499 or, from what I'm hearing because of the intro offer, $249.

Mathematically, this is so messed up I don't even know where to begin. I can't be the only long time Arturia customer who feels this way. It's like the more loyal you've been to the company, the more you get screwed over with each update.

ke2041 · Post by **ke2041** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:30 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Hmm, since updating quite a few of them have bits missing from the GUI and dont produce audio

Not cool...
Can you PM some details about this (which instruments, OS, DAW...) so we can have a look at this tomorrow?

db3 · Post by **db3** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:34 pm

Buchla Easel seems like a lot of fun. Not sure I want to drop a ton on it right now, but definitely one to keep an eye on.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:36 pm

Kevin [Arturia] wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I bought a Microbrute for less than the upgrade price lol
yep but the Microbrute is "just" a monosynth and even if it is a very nice one you really can not compare it with the VCollection.

Software can be seen as no value compared to hardware but this is still the result of the work on people who need to pay their bill and so need be paid for their work

I know, I just like to complain

Currently re downloading everything to see if mymissing GUIs and no sound is sorted

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:36 pm

I liked the collection (actually V5) a lot. It‘s a bit of history lesson and knowledge basis for synthies.

But this update price is simply ridiculous. I recognize that I start looking for alternatives and I see that there are a lot...

Hope Arturia think again if they‘re on the right track. Otherwise I may be lost for them...

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:38 pm

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:39 pm

martinjuenke wrote:I recognize that I start looking for alternatives and I see that there are a lot...

Lots of Buchla VSTi? Lots of CMI VSTi that allow you to use your own samples? Can you point me to them please?

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:42 pm

Kevin [Arturia] wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:Hmm, since updating quite a few of them have bits missing from the GUI and dont produce audio
Not cool...
Can you PM some details about this (which instruments, OS, DAW...) so we can have a look at this tomorrow?

Ill reinstall them, see if that sorts it.
Its pretty much all of them except the Modular V, DX7 and the Easel.
I get crackles with the Easel

ZeePok · Post by **ZeePok** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:42 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:I recognize that I start looking for alternatives and I see that there are a lot...
Lots of Buchla VSTi? Lots of CMI VSTi that allow you to use your own samples? Can you point me to them please?

Buchla = Aalto (already have that)

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:43 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
martinjuenke wrote:I recognize that I start looking for alternatives and I see that there are a lot...
Lots of Buchla VSTi? Lots of CMI VSTi that allow you to use your own samples? Can you point me to them please?

I don‘t need any pony on a farm. I want a couple of different high performance horses and they are available...

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:44 pm

And yes, Aalto is really cool!

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:44 pm

And for old, outdated gems have a look at Rhythmic Robot or others of that league...

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