Arturia V Collection 6

[Aliens]

I don't think the new guy is a new guy, but an old guy that had been banned already.

If you're confident, name names, otherwise it just looks like a bit of a pile on.

[braj]

Yes, another good ol' KVR list

He wouldn't really know about those "good ol' KVR lists" had he not been around here for a bit. But whatever

[wagtunes]

If you're confident, name names.

I got no idea who it can be. The style doesn't remind me of anybody since I've been here. One guy I'd know for sure. But this one, not a clue.

Hey, how was your Christmas? Just remembered, gotta pop by your Soundcloud page again. Really liked that track you shared. Reminded me of a cross between Hello People and somebody else whose name escapes me,

[Aliens]

Hey, how was your Christmas? Just remembered, gotta pop by your Soundcloud page again. Really liked that track you shared. Reminded me of a cross between Hello People and somebody else whose name escapes me,

I'm good, Waggers, as was the holiday, you just keep that link to yourself

I'm off to google Hello people

[bmanic]

I'm really tempted to get this pack but I just can't get over the sound of all of these. There seems to be something inherently harsh and unpleasant in absolutely all of the synths from Arturia. Probably it's just me getting old and grumpy but for some strange reason I just can't get over the feeling. I've had this feeling of their products since forever. Am I just imagining things and thus have a built in bias? So far I've spent several hours on almost all of the latest synths and updated old ones.

There's just something "non-real" in their sound. Can't put my finger on it. Like some instruments and effects have a certain realness to them.. these are the opposite. For instance U-He ACE and Diva have something "real" to the sound.. as do a few other non-analogue emulation synths like OhmForce Symptohm:Melohman and Vengeance Avenger. Or ArcSyn (that I really need to get at some point) as another example.

Even a few sample playback systems like various UVI versions of these synths sound a lot more "real" and less annoying.

Oh well.. it's a shame really as I'd love to like these.

[egbert101]

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[hellomrbike]

I'm really tempted to get this pack but I just can't get over the sound of all of these. There seems to be something inherently harsh and unpleasant in absolutely all of the synths from Arturia.

I understand this love hate thing with Arturia. You can't help being conflicted when hearing the latest circuit modelled emulations that are near a perfect match of the originals. Arturia doesn't do perfect emulations, but it does do emulations that are of the spirit of the original, hence they're very useable in a mix, they're just not going to replace the originals, at least not yet.

I find the V Collection synths appealing for this very reason – they emulate the "workflow" of each instrument, even if the analogue modelling is not amazing for the older (pre-SEM-ish) entries. That is to say, I find it quite easy to hop in and design sounds using these synths because each preserves the "feel" of the original, not just in its signal path, but in its limitations, as well.

As a counter example to this, DUNE 2 is no doubt a great workhorse synth in terms of features and flexibility – it does VA, it does wavetables, it does (kinda rudimentary) FM. And you can mix and match them, stacking up to 8 voices at once!

However, I find that actually using it to design more than rudimentary sounds is a real chore, for two primary reasons: 1. You have to switch between identical-looking screens to stack voices, with every voice inheriting from the settings of your first voice (rather than initializing). So in order to stack two completely different voices, you have to "de-program" the second voice first, then re-program it how you want. And 2. You have to program all your modulations using this tiny mod matrix that shares screen real-estate with the preset browser, settings menu, and arpeggiator. So the sound design workflow, to me, feels quite clunky and repetitive, as a result.

Consequently, I've barely used DUNE 2 since I bought it around a year ago (which is really unfortunate, because it sounds great). However, Arturia synths have made their way into several of my recent projects, oftentimes because I just find them way more fun to program.

[wagtunes]

Hey, how was your Christmas? Just remembered, gotta pop by your Soundcloud page again. Really liked that track you shared. Reminded me of a cross between Hello People and somebody else whose name escapes me,

I'm good, Waggers, as was the holiday, you just keep that link to yourself

I'm off to google Hello people

Yeah, no prob. I'll be taking that to my grave. LOL

[bmanic]

I'm really tempted to get this pack but I just can't get over the sound of all of these. There seems to be something inherently harsh and unpleasant in absolutely all of the synths from Arturia.

I understand this love hate thing with Arturia. You can't help being conflicted when hearing the latest circuit modelled emulations that are near a perfect match of the originals. Arturia doesn't do perfect emulations, but it does do emulations that are of the spirit of the original, hence they're very useable in a mix, they're just not going to replace the originals, at least not yet.

Actually I'm not picky at all about something being "authentic" or not. I just want it to sound good. Unfortunately all of the Arturia synths have something annoying in their sound quality that I just can't put a finger on.

This has happened before with some other synths too. I could for instance never get to grips with the sound of Sylenth, no matter how many people kept praising it.. to me it just sounds annoying, no matter what. Then again I've heard tracks that have stunning synth sounds, all made with Sylenth or something else that annoys me when I play it myself.

Yeah, I'm getting more weird every year. My mind is starting to play tricks on me for sure.

[sfxsound3]

Then imagine how it sounds to a rat!

Everything is subjective, but with that said, the correct answer to your dilemma is: Sylenth - good, Arturia - bad.

No need to thank me, I just did you a favour for free, 'coz I'm generous!

[braj]

Yeah, I think it isn't fair to say Arturia = bad. Urs from U-he somewhere praised the Easel, and i only own 2 Arturia synths, so my experience with them is the SEM V (very good) and the 2600V (very not so good). The fair thing to say really is the Collection is a mixed bag of old and new with varying usefulness and it shows. But at least they have kept up the interfaces so they are useful and not decrepit.

[fmr]

Then imagine how it sounds to a rat!

Everything is subjective, but with that said, the correct answer to your dilemma is: Sylenth - good, Arturia - bad.

No need to thank me, I just did you a favour for free, 'coz I'm generous!

Another troll trying to win the troll cup

[fmr]

Yeah, I'm getting more weird every year. My mind is starting to play tricks on me for sure.

Well, you can make an easy experience. Record some similar sounds done with Arturia synths and those that you praise. DO NOT label them. Then revisit the track after a year from now, ands try to recognize which ones you hate

[Stefken]

I'm really tempted to get this pack but I just can't get over the sound of all of these. There seems to be something inherently harsh and unpleasant in absolutely all of the synths from Arturia. ...
Oh well.. it's a shame really as I'd love to like these.

I don't qualify them as harsh but they do lack bottom end and oumph. I typically add some saturation to beef them up. It's also a mixed bag. I like SEM, CS80, Easel etc but some of the older plugins are showing their age. I'd wish they revisit e.g. ARP 2600, and get it on an equivalent level as the never plugins.
I guess soundwise U-he is better but the Arturia Collection gives you a chance to experience a lot of synths and their presets are always very musical. It's not always about the best sound quality...

But if you don't like the sound, don't give yourself a hard time about it.

An alternative could be Syntronik from IK Multimedia (http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/syntronik/ ). It's samplebased but with modelled filters. It has more of an 'analogue body' in the sound and it also lets you experience a lot of the old synths.

[egbert101]

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