NAMM 2018 | Bitwig News | 2.3 Announced

[dekonstruktiv]

[quote="thetechnobear"]subscription model/quote]

there is no subscription model. please educate yourself.

[pdxindy]

The question is: "Will they release it in time for those who paid for the subscription last February, or will they hold out for March 1st for the extra cash?"

Website says end of February

so that those of us that went along with their subscription model from the get-go will have to pay to get 2.3.

Really? I thought I upgraded to 2.0 basically as soon as it was available and my 12 month goes to March 1st. Is yours earlier than March 1st?

[anoise]

p.s. for those saying they might drop before sub date... sure, but if its buggy, you wont get the 2.3.1 that will fix potential show-stoppers - this was the whole argument against the sub model... you dont get bug fix releases... so sure you'll have a shiny new 2.3, with new bugs... that you'll have to get back on the hamster wheel to have fixed.

This!
Awesome looking update but I hope it will not be a bug fest.

[Enrize]

p.s. for those saying they might drop before sub date... sure, but if its buggy, you wont get the 2.3.1 that will fix potential show-stoppers - this was the whole argument against the sub model... you dont get bug fix releases... so sure you'll have a shiny new 2.3, with new bugs... that you'll have to get back on the hamster wheel to have fixed.

This!
Awesome looking update but I hope it will not be a bug fest.

Then join the Beta and report as many your bugs as possible.

[SpaceTraffic]

Casio CZ filthy oscillators, special the Square wave is my favourite all timer!

[trancema]

Wow, excellent update, great job, Bitwig

Biggest feature for me are new time-streching algorithms and I am looking forward to hear a "colored" ones ("Cyclic — retro stretching inspired by classic cream colored samplers")

[thetechnobear]

subscription model/quote]

there is no subscription model. please educate yourself.

of course it is, I don't have to accept the bitwig marketing spiel...
you are subscribing for maintenance, if you end your subscription, you get no more updates, even for bug fixes i.e. you don't have support.

unlike a paid upgrade route, where you pay for version X, and you get bug fixes for it until the next 'major version'.

also bare in mind (and this might change!) , currently you can only download the current version from bitwig, so if your sub has ended, you cannot go back and get 'your' version.
(yes, I keep a copy of the image, but really bitwig should do this)

Really? I thought I upgraded to 2.0 basically as soon as it was available and my 12 month goes to March 1st. Is yours earlier than March 1st?

28th Feb

Then join the Beta and report as many your bugs as possible.

I previously have, and seen bugs go unfixed...
and if i do this, then basically im accepting 2.3, which means im basically committing to the re-subscribing.

which leads me too...
I think upgrading around NAMM time is a mistake, I suspect they are going to do this every year... this is natural, so they can have an announcement and the PR.
so I think, if your using BWS, its better to have a plan running from April to April, that way you get the 'big NAMM upgrade' , but also have a couple of months in hand for bug fix releases.

btw: Ive no issues with any of this, I don't mind paying for upgrades, just I think we are going to see how the BWS model works, and if their words about 'features coming as ready, not for milestone releases' actually ring true.

[pdxindy]

Casio CZ filthy oscillators, special the Square wave is my favourite all timer!

The Oscillators can also modulate the filter!!

[pekbro]

Nice, but I think someone should start another thread about this, 3 isn't nearly enough imho.

[pdxindy]

Really? I thought I upgraded to 2.0 basically as soon as it was available and my 12 month goes to March 1st. Is yours earlier than March 1st?

28th Feb

hehe

[pdxindy]

which leads me too...
I think upgrading around NAMM time is a mistake, I suspect they are going to do this every year... this is natural, so they can have an announcement and the PR.
so I think, if your using BWS, its better to have a plan running from April to April, that way you get the 'big NAMM upgrade' , but also have a couple of months in hand for bug fix releases.

my guess is that within 2-3 years, the plans will have distributed themselves fairly evenly throughout the year.

[SpaceTraffic]

Casio CZ filthy oscillators, special the Square wave is my favourite all timer!

The Oscillators can also modulate the filter!!

Phat!!

[thetechnobear]

which leads me too...
I think upgrading around NAMM time is a mistake, I suspect they are going to do this every year... this is natural, so they can have an announcement and the PR.
so I think, if your using BWS, its better to have a plan running from April to April, that way you get the 'big NAMM upgrade' , but also have a couple of months in hand for bug fix releases.

my guess is that within 2-3 years, the plans will have distributed themselves fairly evenly throughout the year.

your probably right.

however, if they do yearly namm announcements (likely), this will put a (small?) bias into renew dates, as users with lapsed plans will be tempted to upgrade to get the 'big release'.

but as you say, early days ... only time will tell

[pdxindy]

The website also mentions "a multitude of improvements"... so I'm rather curious to see what various small improvements have been made besides the mentioned major features. (I assume multitude is overly enthusiastic )

[nsq]

The website also mentions "a multitude of improvements"... so I'm rather curious to see what various small improvements have been made besides the mentioned major features. (I assume multitude is overly enthusiastic )

Sends on return tracks I hope