We get it, you told us so! Happy now?
Your point is made. It's on the record (repeatedly).
Hive update plan
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
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- KVRian
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Every single EDM kiddie uses Serum, and I guarantee you there are more of them than there are Hive users. And most of them have typed their name into the wavetable scripting bit, said, “cool,” then moved on with their lives.ZeePok wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:45 am Well, that's what you get when you go messing about with a synth that was embraced by the EDM-kiddies (remember: 'Sylenth killer?').
EDM kiddies want everything simple. Hopla, just cut-and-paste another track! And now they don't know what to do with all that 'advanced stuff'!
Priceless!
This entire argument is ridiculous.
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- KVRAF
- 35405 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
The question is how many of the "EDM kiddies" actually own and use Hive.ZeePok wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:45 am Well, that's what you get when you go messing about with a synth that was embraced by the EDM-kiddies (remember: 'Sylenth killer?').
EDM kiddies want everything simple. Hopla, just cut-and-paste another track! And now they don't know what to do with all that 'advanced stuff'!
Priceless!
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- u-he
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- 28062 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Hmmm, do I split the OMG It Broke My Synth into a separate thread, or do I just start a new thread to discuss the *actual* topic. Or maybe we just keep our plans to ourselves and enjoy the silence.
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This has to be the strangest thread I have ever seen on this forum.
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- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
My impression is that not many. Obviously Hive failed to reach its initial target. Otherwise there would be like 1 million preset banks for it, as there are for Sylenth or Spire or Serum (see the pattern on these? Hive needs a new name: something that starts with S
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- 28062 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Thankfully Hive can be used for something else then
But who knows. Only recently we learned that a few years ago ACE became a "must have" in the dance scene for a single of its presets. Sometimes things go mysterious ways.
But who knows. Only recently we learned that a few years ago ACE became a "must have" in the dance scene for a single of its presets. Sometimes things go mysterious ways.
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- KVRAF
- 5483 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania
Yeah, sure. I don't personally have a problem with the fact that it's not loved by the EDM crowd. 
What's that ACE preset?
What's that ACE preset?
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- u-he
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- 28062 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Me neither. I'm more concerned about our own crowd, where I think Hive has a lot of potential.
viewtopic.php?t=382356What's that ACE preset?
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
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Really? A single preset? Which one? How do those types of things even happen? Someone has a big track and then someone recognizes the preset, puts it on Reddit or whatever, and sales spike? Next U-he dance synth name: Spike.
EDIT: see Urs answer above.
EDIT: see Urs answer above.
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- KVRAF
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Robert Randolph Robert Randolph https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7328 - KVRAF
- 2225 posts since 25 May, 2003 from Saint Petersburg, Florida
It sure is.
I've been binge watching twilight zone and outer limits, and they can't hold a candle to this mess.
u-he is doing something awesome, and people are finding a way to be upset about it.
And now it's de-evolving into a strange silliness that I find far more enjoyable.
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- KVRist
- 269 posts since 12 Nov, 2011
See, the initial problem with Hive is that it had an underlying contrivance. Urs was kind of making a synth aimed at styles of music he didn't even like. So while it's a fine synth, it has identity issues.
Therefore, I don't think it would be a good idea to overthink its future. Hive's reason for being shouldn't be that it's aimed at certain users or certain styles of music. Instead it should be about simplifying the user interaction, even if the synth isn't actually simple (and this was one of Urs' initial intentions). And focusing on big, exciting and immediate digital sounds. Those sounds might be epic supersaws, or they might be enormous synthetic bells, or snarling basses, or angelic robot choirs. If the sounds are exciting enough, it will find its audience. The Ace anecdote being a fine example of that.
Therefore, I don't think it would be a good idea to overthink its future. Hive's reason for being shouldn't be that it's aimed at certain users or certain styles of music. Instead it should be about simplifying the user interaction, even if the synth isn't actually simple (and this was one of Urs' initial intentions). And focusing on big, exciting and immediate digital sounds. Those sounds might be epic supersaws, or they might be enormous synthetic bells, or snarling basses, or angelic robot choirs. If the sounds are exciting enough, it will find its audience. The Ace anecdote being a fine example of that.
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You forgot MaSSive.e@rs wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:54 pmMy impression is that not many. Obviously Hive failed to reach its initial target. Otherwise there would be like 1 million preset banks for it, as there are for Sylenth or Spire or Serum (see the pattern on these? Hive needs a new name: something that starts with S
