Not sounding the same

[vurt]

I think it's much better to start off the preset without any effects and then add them later on in the process of creating it. With a big reverb and/or delay you can't hear as much of the details in the sound you are making.

does seem a bit odd doing a sound design tutorial video with outboard fx in place before you even start?

[Bob Slydell]

Ah ok!!!! That must be it then. That must be a great reverb because it is making a sound that i would consider unusable into a great sounding one. May be worth a download I have not heard of it before. So many VST and plugins out there - difficult to know wht to look for!

Search the 'Products' section for plugins her on KVR. You will find something for shure. For reverbs i would recommend starting with free ones first. TAL Reverb 2, 3 and 4 is great and free!

great will take a look thanks. Ive always used the inbuilt fx in logic pro - but i must say the end result in that youtube video i can not achieve with those. I guess that is down to me rather that the unit used. I find it quite interesting actually - could a decent producer completely replicate the FX of an expensive unit like valhhala using free plug in.... I definately need to learn alot more about FX like reverb - so much to it

It’s worth noting that, relatively speaking (and when considering their quality), Valhalla’s plugins are cheap. I still love VSP Vintage despite having another reverb which is sold at four times the price.

It’s also worth pointing out that most reverbs have the flexibility to emulate most kinds of spaces, even though they might not be able to recreate 100% facsimiles of a specific sound. Logic Pro comes with two excellent reverbs (Space Designer and Chromaverb), and if you learn how to use them you can get excellent results. Both offer great natural spaces, and SD also has a lot of experimental types of convolutions. Despite owning 3rd-party alternatives, I will often look to Logic’s offerings, as I love the workflow, especially the included eq’s which offer greater flexibility in placing the ‘verb in a mix.

I would suggest learning to use what you have, and then when you stumble upon something that is lacking you know which areas you’d be looking to improve with a 3rd-party reverb

Thanks will do. interestingly my logic doesnt have chromaverb in the reverb section of audio fx or the legacy drop downs? I have logic pro x 10.2.0

Yeah! It was released with version 10.4. Just go to the appstore to download the update

haha.cant believe i hadnt done this - these new FX plug in are great too.Thanks

[chk071]

I think it's much better to start off the preset without any effects and then add them later on in the process of creating it. With a big reverb and/or delay you can't hear as much of the details in the sound you are making.

does seem a bit odd doing a sound design tutorial video with outboard fx in place before you even start?

Considering how crappy most tutorials on Youtube are... it's at least not a big surprise.

Shows how essential good reverberation is, though.

[vurt]

I think it's much better to start off the preset without any effects and then add them later on in the process of creating it. With a big reverb and/or delay you can't hear as much of the details in the sound you are making.

does seem a bit odd doing a sound design tutorial video with outboard fx in place before you even start?

Considering how crappy most tutorials on Youtube are... it's at least not a big surprise.

Shows how essential good reverberation is, though.

is it really that bad? i dont watch tutorials so much as demos, some channels are better than others, but im not looking to "learn" from these.
id hope there are at least a few good ones?
theres people here who could easily knock out good quality tutorials im sure?
suppose, like teaching, it takes more than just knowing things, you also need to know how to express it.

[chk071]

suppose, like teaching, it takes more than just knowing things, you also need to know how to express it.

That's the thing where most simply fail i'm afraid.

Anyway, i'm sure those paid tutorials at ADSR, Groove3 or Syntorial are better. There's also a German site (audio-Workshop) which is quite good. There should be more "How to make that sound" tuts though, as that's what most people here are asking. It's beyond me why noone ever closed that market niche.

[e-crooner]

Why don't you use the built-in reverb?

[CrystalWizard]

I think it's much better to start off the preset without any effects and then add them later on in the process of creating it. With a big reverb and/or delay you can't hear as much of the details in the sound you are making.

does seem a bit odd doing a sound design tutorial video with outboard fx in place before you even start?

That’s what i was thinking. Even if you’re going to use a reverb in a tutorial at least point it out and explain why. Otherwise it’s like some bad joke “oh, you can’t get the same sound...”

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Search the 'Products' section for plugins her on KVR. You will find something for shure. For reverbs i would recommend starting with free ones first. TAL Reverb 2, 3 and 4 is great and free!

great will take a look thanks. Ive always used the inbuilt fx in logic pro - but i must say the end result in that youtube video i can not achieve with those. I guess that is down to me rather that the unit used. I find it quite interesting actually - could a decent producer completely replicate the FX of an expensive unit like valhhala using free plug in.... I definately need to learn alot more about FX like reverb - so much to it

It’s worth noting that, relatively speaking (and when considering their quality), Valhalla’s plugins are cheap. I still love VSP Vintage despite having another reverb which is sold at four times the price.

It’s also worth pointing out that most reverbs have the flexibility to emulate most kinds of spaces, even though they might not be able to recreate 100% facsimiles of a specific sound. Logic Pro comes with two excellent reverbs (Space Designer and Chromaverb), and if you learn how to use them you can get excellent results. Both offer great natural spaces, and SD also has a lot of experimental types of convolutions. Despite owning 3rd-party alternatives, I will often look to Logic’s offerings, as I love the workflow, especially the included eq’s which offer greater flexibility in placing the ‘verb in a mix.

I would suggest learning to use what you have, and then when you stumble upon something that is lacking you know which areas you’d be looking to improve with a 3rd-party reverb

Thanks will do. interestingly my logic doesnt have chromaverb in the reverb section of audio fx or the legacy drop downs? I have logic pro x 10.2.0

Yeah! It was released with version 10.4. Just go to the appstore to download the update

haha.cant believe i hadnt done this - these new FX plug in are great too.Thanks

Great news! They really are great reverbs. I'm currently using Chromaverb and Space Designer on some 'percussion' that I sampled at the local coffee shop

Also check out the new versions of Camelspace and Camelphatt (Multi effects >> Step fx & Phat fx)

[eyezermusic]

I made the video that was linked here. Just to clarify, it says nowhere in the video or in the description that it is a tutorial video. I made the ANA 2 videos (8 in total) because one of my subscribers requested that I should test ANA 2. The point of the video is to listen to how the synth sounds (combined with the outboard FX of course), not to necessarily learn anything. It is just a basic synth demo I did. My subscriber was happy with what I did and then I moved on. I used an outboard FX, because I did not like the ANA 2 reverb (you can also see in the video that the inboard reverb is turned off...). But I have now added into the description that I used Valhalla Room for the reverb and I have also clarified that it is not a tutorial.