Me? I couldn't give a monkeys
ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Finally here!
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 2904 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless price complaints without the full list of improvements even known yet and "usually" a ton of ilok complaints before getting to the good stuff of what the product is about.
As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited.It's been many years since the Nexus 2 release. Why not build it up to generate interest? That's just marketing.
On the other hand, I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited.It's been many years since the Nexus 2 release. Why not build it up to generate interest? That's just marketing.
On the other hand, I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 9685 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
In a way car manufacturers do this -- https://www.ford.com/powertrains/batter ... allery-bevdblock wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:49 pm Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless the price complaints and "usually" dongle complaints to get to what the product is about. As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited,
I see it as marketing plain and simple. Build it up. That's their choice. I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
Same thing happened with the C8. Not a per week build up with little fragments of info on the corporate site. But there are 'leaks' of info here and there until the final release. Usually pricing is one of the last things to be announced.
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- KVRAF
- 2904 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Good point VitaminD. Now back to Nexus2. Still waiting for hat browser info.VitaminD wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:52 pmIn a way car manufacturers do this -- https://www.ford.com/powertrains/batter ... allery-bevdblock wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:49 pm Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless the price complaints and "usually" dongle complaints to get to what the product is about. As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited,
I see it as marketing plain and simple. Build it up. That's their choice. I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
Same thing happened with the C8. Not a per week build up with little fragments of info on the corporate site. But there are 'leaks' of info here and there until the final release. Usually pricing is one of the last things to be announced.
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- KVRAF
- 35437 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
The funny thing is that it's merely two handful (at best) of (usually the same) people who complain, creating loads of posts and big discussions about their always same-ish political views. Which leads you to believe that it would be a huge outburst, and loads of people who share those views. I think most companies are well capable of seeing it realistically, and they actually know what their general customer base really wants and is after. Which also explains the diversity of the opinions of those people here, and what the companies do with their products, and how successful they are doing so. Nexus is a evergreen for the respective styles, and will remain that, regardless of the two handful (if even) of people complaining here.
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- KVRian
- 851 posts since 26 Jan, 2014 from United States of America
I do have to point out that I am female because certain statement coming from guy would sound weird.
I had very awful experience with ReFX back in a day. I made a mistake to ask for Easter discount, because I missed Christmas discount and the owner was "over the top". Then- they have/had some female representative- not sure if she is someone's wife or just works there- she had super bad attitude. They got me crying (guy would probably not write this). I know what you thinking- that I am unstable. What ever. They have some serious customer service issues. And then, even later, when I ask something else, that woman would look up my support history and write something like, "You were explained the previous time..." I am glad I can buy on line and don't have to talk to anybody.
- KVRian
- 1421 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
I contacted the support several times without any problems.. ..not that this make your experience somehow better but.. ..just sayin'.
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Loudness_Contour Loudness_Contour https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=447375
- KVRist
- 76 posts since 4 Sep, 2019
I wrote to reFX multiple times, and I found them very friendly. Support was quick too. However, I remember reading many posts on their Twitter account where they were complaining about some of their customers. I found that a bit disturbing because without us, their customers, they would not be in business anymore. I guess that’s one reason why their Twitter account is no more.Astralv wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:00 pmI do have to point out that I am female because certain statement coming from guy would sound weird.
I had very awful experience with ReFX back in a day. I made a mistake to ask for Easter discount, because I missed Christmas discount and the owner was "over the top". Then- they have/had some female representative- not sure if she is someone's wife or just works there- she had super bad attitude. They got me crying (guy would probably not write this). I know what you thinking- that I am unstable. What ever. They have some serious customer service issues. And then, even later, when I ask something else, that woman would look up my support history and write something like, "You were explained the previous time..." I am glad I can buy on line and don't have to talk to anybody.
I don’t think you made a “mistake” by asking about an Easter discount. It’s a very legitimate question. In my opinion, customer support staff should always be friendly. As a customer, you deserve to be treated with respect.
That said, I love Nexus and can’t wait to see what’s new in version 3! I’ve been asking for an improved vector-based UI for years and I’m glad they listened. I don’t mind paying the upgrade fee, which I think is reasonable. I see your point though, that old customers have to pay unlike new customers... but that’s the way most software companies work.
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- Banned
- 9 posts since 17 Nov, 2019
Please don't get me wrong, but there's something I'm a bit confused and worried about.
I mean, wasn't it you who said not relying on eLicenser for Avenger turned out to be the wrong decision? (announcing Avenger 2 with eLicenser protection as a paid upgrade in the next breath)
So, is non-dongle considered safe again? Or are you guys going to play the same game again (to release a dongled N4 next year or something like that)?
What's the catch?
I mean, wasn't it you who said not relying on eLicenser for Avenger turned out to be the wrong decision? (announcing Avenger 2 with eLicenser protection as a paid upgrade in the next breath)
So, is non-dongle considered safe again? Or are you guys going to play the same game again (to release a dongled N4 next year or something like that)?
Well not as portable as with eLicenser unfortunately. Also, what happens when those two activations are used?
- KVRAF
- 2468 posts since 18 Apr, 2011
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- KVRist
- 408 posts since 12 Mar, 2016
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- KVRist
- 40 posts since 25 May, 2016
I expect or would hope for there to be new stock presets for N3, of course keep the N2 library separate but it’d be weird to just have the same old factory presets from what seems like 10 years ago on the new 2019 N3.
The quality of their newer expansions have come along way from the first ones and it’d be nice for N3 to have a new fresh and updated library
The quality of their newer expansions have come along way from the first ones and it’d be nice for N3 to have a new fresh and updated library
- KVRian
- 540 posts since 8 Jul, 2015 from Canada
it be doBennyLucassi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:45 am I expect or would hope for there to be new stock presets for N3, of course keep the N2 library separate but it’d be weird to just have the same old factory presets from what seems like 10 years ago on the new 2019 N3.
The quality of their newer expansions have come along way from the first ones and it’d be nice for N3 to have a new fresh and updated library
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- KVRist
- 53 posts since 18 Nov, 2019
I don't use Nexus much anymore but I liked some of the electro expansions and I was using them in the past when electro was big. What I like about Nexus is that the sounds are pre-EQed to some extent which saves time mixing. What I don't like is you can't tweak them that much. Omnisphere blows it away to be honest. You can tweak way more in Omnisphere. So I wonder if version 3 will be more Omnisphere like?
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- KVRAF
- 2904 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
I hope not more Omnisphere like. I have Omnisphere and Nexus and they compliment each other. If they become too much alike, they go from being complimentary to being redundant.currentsound wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:57 am I don't use Nexus much anymore but I liked some of the electro expansions and I was using them in the past when electro was big. What I like about Nexus is that the sounds are pre-EQed to some extent which saves time mixing. What I don't like is you can't tweak them that much. Omnisphere blows it away to be honest. You can tweak way more in Omnisphere. So I wonder if version 3 will be more Omnisphere like?