ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Finally here!

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ramseysounds
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533 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:07 am

msvs wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:20 am
all information will be fully there before release, so dont worry
Me? I couldn't give a monkeys
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

dblock
KVRAF
2321 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:49 am

Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless price complaints without the full list of improvements even known yet and "usually" a ton of ilok complaints before getting to the good stuff of what the product is about.
As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited.It's been many years since the Nexus 2 release. Why not build it up to generate interest? That's just marketing.
On the other hand, I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
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VitaminD
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8802 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:52 am

dblock wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:49 am
Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless the price complaints and "usually" dongle complaints to get to what the product is about. As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited,
I see it as marketing plain and simple. Build it up. That's their choice. I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
In a way car manufacturers do this -- https://www.ford.com/powertrains/batter ... allery-bev

Same thing happened with the C8. Not a per week build up with little fragments of info on the corporate site. But there are 'leaks' of info here and there until the final release. Usually pricing is one of the last things to be announced. :hihi:
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dblock
KVRAF
2321 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:54 am

VitaminD wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:52 am
dblock wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:49 am
Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless the price complaints and "usually" dongle complaints to get to what the product is about. As for the marketing drips and drabs of info coming out to get people excited,
I see it as marketing plain and simple. Build it up. That's their choice. I'm just glad car manufacturers don't do that, "This week on the upcoming 2020 Ford Slowdown,we learn they'll be new improved mufflers and tie rods on the under carriage, Next week, we learn about the stereo and gps improvements. lol
In a way car manufacturers do this -- https://www.ford.com/powertrains/batter ... allery-bev

Same thing happened with the C8. Not a per week build up with little fragments of info on the corporate site. But there are 'leaks' of info here and there until the final release. Usually pricing is one of the last things to be announced. :hihi:
Good point VitaminD. Now back to Nexus2. Still waiting for hat browser info.

chk071
KVRAF
22437 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:08 am

dblock wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:49 am
Every new product you have to sought through seemingly endless price complaints without the full list of improvements even known yet and "usually" a ton of ilok complaints before getting to the good stuff of what the product is about.
The funny thing is that it's merely two handful (at best) of (usually the same) people who complain, creating loads of posts and big discussions about their always same-ish political views. Which leads you to believe that it would be a huge outburst, and loads of people who share those views. I think most companies are well capable of seeing it realistically, and they actually know what their general customer base really wants and is after. Which also explains the diversity of the opinions of those people here, and what the companies do with their products, and how successful they are doing so. Nexus is a evergreen for the respective styles, and will remain that, regardless of the two handful (if even) of people complaining here.

Astralv
KVRian
811 posts since 26 Jan, 2014 from United States of America

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Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:00 pm

msvs wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:16 am
they think more emotional than we men, which is a good thing

she wrotes herself
I am a woman, so this should explain emotional attachment and response.
so my response is, well, yes she is right, this explains it
I do have to point out that I am female because certain statement coming from guy would sound weird.
I had very awful experience with ReFX back in a day. I made a mistake to ask for Easter discount, because I missed Christmas discount and the owner was "over the top". Then- they have/had some female representative- not sure if she is someone's wife or just works there- she had super bad attitude. They got me crying (guy would probably not write this). I know what you thinking- that I am unstable. What ever. They have some serious customer service issues. And then, even later, when I ask something else, that woman would look up my support history and write something like, "You were explained the previous time..." I am glad I can buy on line and don't have to talk to anybody.

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mladi
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736 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany

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Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:10 pm

I contacted the support several times without any problems.. ..not that this make your experience somehow better but.. ..just sayin'.
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Loudness_Contour
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36 posts since 4 Sep, 2019

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:20 pm

Astralv wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:00 pm
msvs wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:16 am
they think more emotional than we men, which is a good thing

she wrotes herself
I am a woman, so this should explain emotional attachment and response.
so my response is, well, yes she is right, this explains it
I do have to point out that I am female because certain statement coming from guy would sound weird.
I had very awful experience with ReFX back in a day. I made a mistake to ask for Easter discount, because I missed Christmas discount and the owner was "over the top". Then- they have/had some female representative- not sure if she is someone's wife or just works there- she had super bad attitude. They got me crying (guy would probably not write this). I know what you thinking- that I am unstable. What ever. They have some serious customer service issues. And then, even later, when I ask something else, that woman would look up my support history and write something like, "You were explained the previous time..." I am glad I can buy on line and don't have to talk to anybody.
I wrote to reFX multiple times, and I found them very friendly. Support was quick too. However, I remember reading many posts on their Twitter account where they were complaining about some of their customers. I found that a bit disturbing because without us, their customers, they would not be in business anymore. I guess that’s one reason why their Twitter account is no more.

I don’t think you made a “mistake” by asking about an Easter discount. It’s a very legitimate question. In my opinion, customer support staff should always be friendly. As a customer, you deserve to be treated with respect.

That said, I love Nexus and can’t wait to see what’s new in version 3! I’ve been asking for an improved vector-based UI for years and I’m glad they listened. I don’t mind paying the upgrade fee, which I think is reasonable. I see your point though, that old customers have to pay unlike new customers... but that’s the way most software companies work.

EKindle
KVRer
2 posts since 17 Nov, 2019

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:04 pm

Please don't get me wrong, but there's something I'm a bit confused and worried about.
msvs wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:56 pm
I would give you $100 on top of what I already paid if you, please, get rid of stupid "dangle."
can I send you my paypal for the $100?
What's the catch?
I mean, wasn't it you who said not relying on eLicenser for Avenger turned out to be the wrong decision? (announcing Avenger 2 with eLicenser protection as a paid upgrade in the next breath)
So, is non-dongle considered safe again? Or are you guys going to play the same game again (to release a dongled N4 next year or something like that)?
msvs wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:17 am
then its your lucky day: Nexus 3 won't use the elicenser dongle any more. And you have 2 activations
Well not as portable as with eLicenser unfortunately. Also, what happens when those two activations are used?

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msvs
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1725 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

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Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:26 pm

refx use an own developed copy protection method where much time went in to make it secure.
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MirkoVanHauten
KVRist
152 posts since 12 Mar, 2016

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:44 pm

msvs wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:26 pm
refx use an own developed copy protection method where much time went in to make it secure.
May I ask why Avenger doesn't use it too?

BennyLucassi
KVRist
39 posts since 25 May, 2016

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:45 pm

I expect or would hope for there to be new stock presets for N3, of course keep the N2 library separate but it’d be weird to just have the same old factory presets from what seems like 10 years ago on the new 2019 N3.

The quality of their newer expansions have come along way from the first ones and it’d be nice for N3 to have a new fresh and updated library

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shonoob
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540 posts since 8 Jul, 2015 from Canada

Re: ReFx Nexus 3 (N3) Incoming!

Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:44 pm

BennyLucassi wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:45 pm
I expect or would hope for there to be new stock presets for N3, of course keep the N2 library separate but it’d be weird to just have the same old factory presets from what seems like 10 years ago on the new 2019 N3.

The quality of their newer expansions have come along way from the first ones and it’d be nice for N3 to have a new fresh and updated library
it be do

currentsound
KVRer
12 posts since 18 Nov, 2019

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Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:57 pm

I don't use Nexus much anymore but I liked some of the electro expansions and I was using them in the past when electro was big. What I like about Nexus is that the sounds are pre-EQed to some extent which saves time mixing. What I don't like is you can't tweak them that much. Omnisphere blows it away to be honest. You can tweak way more in Omnisphere. So I wonder if version 3 will be more Omnisphere like?

dblock
KVRAF
2321 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

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Post Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:45 pm

currentsound wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:57 pm
I don't use Nexus much anymore but I liked some of the electro expansions and I was using them in the past when electro was big. What I like about Nexus is that the sounds are pre-EQed to some extent which saves time mixing. What I don't like is you can't tweak them that much. Omnisphere blows it away to be honest. You can tweak way more in Omnisphere. So I wonder if version 3 will be more Omnisphere like?
I hope not more Omnisphere like. I have Omnisphere and Nexus and they compliment each other. If they become too much alike, they go from being complimentary to being redundant.

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