does anyone actually think about this? Not being a jerk, it's just that that is a reflex for me...I even find myself tapping my feet while listening to a ten second ad jingle on the idiot box (tv)6. Foot tapping while playing, but don’t become dependent on it.
My timing is precise but ... inaccurate.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
under? I have had one half a cup of coffee in my life...I did drink pepsi or coke for decades and that was either two 2 liter bottles a day or 10-12 cans a day but I kicked 'fein in 2010. FTR in 1993 I kicked a cocaine habit (yes, indeed it has now been over a quarter century clean ) caffeine was more brutal to kick. The headaches were horrid but the end reluts were worth it
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- KVRAF
- 35215 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
I thought the same Hink, but I've recently had a couple of "guitar players" in my studio, and they were incapable of keeping time. " Your sequencer is speeding up" was the cry. I suggested tapping their feet to help keep time, but they couldn't do that either. Both sessions went nowhere.
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
I agree with Hink that foot tapping is a reflex - guitarists can tap in time to their own playing, but it doesn’t mean that the playing is in time in the first place.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
my first experiences in a pro studio was in the early 80's and the engineer insisted on a click track then...or as we called it the dick track, so we all bought one for practicing (crazy though, it was good one, electronic, just a met, we paid around 40 bux each in 1982 for them and when we started them together they always drifted apart ). Now I use the metronome all the time and ftr I think timing is my biggest issue as well and am always trying to improve on it...but a metronome is no longer a distraction. In fact often I forget before mixing to to shut off the metronome
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
I used to think I could drum in time until I tried it in the studio - I could jam with people no problem, but drumming to a click track was so difficult and I ended up playing through god knows how many times and being dropped in over and over.
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- 105988 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
bloody jazz robots!thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:31 pm I thought the same Hink, but I've recently had a couple of "guitar players" in my studio, and they were incapable of keeping time. " Your sequencer is speeding up" was the cry. I suggested tapping their feet to help keep time, but they couldn't do that either. Both sessions went nowhere.
- KVRAF
- 1574 posts since 19 May, 2011 from North Carolina
OMG this is 100% me. I bought an electric kit just to practice to a click track.
First thing you learn drumming in the studio is to really admire guys like Hal Blaine.
I've gotten a lot better at laying back in the groove now, and it's improved my live drumming. But I still come out of my fills and crash into the one, hear the click, cuss, and start again. We move a lot around in ProTools
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Groove is one thing, and the first time I played in the studio I found it difficult to get the bass drum in time with the bass player, as I was playing the groove too straight to synchronize with the bass notes perfectly.
Fills were an entirely different matter - I always came out of them too early, and as I tried to adjust they were just sloppy. I’m sure even now I would struggle to play to a click track (don’t own a kit, so don’t practice), but if I did, I know I would have to keep things very simple.
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12669 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
As one of my friends once said to me, "what happened there then - did you throw the drumkit down the stairs?"
Tosser.
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- KVRAF
- 6808 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
vurt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:43 pmgood tiptapper mike wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:35 pm A lot of jazz musicians work on slowing tempos down then... work at being ahead (pushing) or behind (dragging) the beat. This is something that will help every artist.
Also... Practice in the morning Perform at Night.
dont worry about your timing and tell everyone its jazz
vurt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:14 pmbloody jazz robots!thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:31 pm I thought the same Hink, but I've recently had a couple of "guitar players" in my studio, and they were incapable of keeping time. " Your sequencer is speeding up" was the cry. I suggested tapping their feet to help keep time, but they couldn't do that either. Both sessions went nowhere.
Which is it?
Or is it just jazz.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35215 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
FTFY
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scoobedeewahwah!!
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35215 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Nicevurt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:13 pmscoobedeewahwah!!
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.