elassi wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:35 amLol, you talk about Ableton Live that requires to insert a new track for every damned extra MIDI channel you want to route from your VST(i) to somewhere?Izak Synthiemental wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:23 amA software that requires me to more often open menus or click the mouse to the exact same thing that would 'cost' me just one mouse click in a comparable software, is simply less well-designed regarding the user experience.
Oh, and hold your breath: I'm using both programs. Guess I'm an amateur Pro (or vice versa).
Yeah, that midi routing thing in Ableton can be annoying. But once you get your head around it, even though it's a chore, it's logical. Pain on a 16-Midi-Channel, multi-timbral instrument, though.
Depends on use cases. Some DAWs are better and more streamlined for some things than others. Wouldathunkit? I blame the devs. These coding slobs should have all just got together in some secret underground bunker bilderberger type meeting, before the dawn of VST even, and just worked this shit out properly so we don't have to go through this every single f**king time a new DAW (any DAW) is released. Slackers gonna slack!
Yeah, use cases...
This is for those calling BS on my earlier claims about midi being somewhat clunky as opposed to audio in REAPER.
All I was trying to do was record a kick-snare on track 1, then some hats on another midi track below it (same midi channels of course) - something I can do in my few other DAWs in about 30 seconds. I won't criticise Reaper coz it is what it is, and I'm sure this way of doing things would come in handy eventually, but for knocking up a quick beat from scratch all on one midi channel, all on one physical output, this was gruelling to say the least.
That last template I put up would not allow you to record the hats on the next channel and have them playback whilst still monitoring the main kick-snare beat. It's very hard to explain, and I can see why it is very hard to help people as well with specific routing problems especially with out a project file. If it takes someone like me over 3 hours to figure out how to do this, then I can see noobs getting very frustrated and just giving up.
This is just something you have to ride the learning curve on. I eventually got a really useful template that I can use if I forget how things work, but I think I will have learnt enough to be able to do this from scratch again (albeit convoluted). Again, I'm not criticising as such. I remember now why I use Reaper more for Audio than midi (like most).
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=172095
Sorry if I explained my earlier point less than perfectly. I was going from memory on a 4 year old post. Did pretty well really considering how many brain cells I've murdered in the mean time (and how few I had to start with anyway).
Say what you like about REAPER, but that forum is full of very helpful and knowledgeable people who take time out of their day to help people for free!
I got it sorted eventually, and I made up my own templates for future use, but my original point still stands -
something I can do in my few other DAWs in about 30 seconds.
The (much more) skilled people helping me did not refute that claim, for that particular use case.
(well, you did ask...)
Anyway, back to how great REAPER is!
Another thing I find it very very useful for is testing new VSTs. It's easy to have 32bit and 64bit installs on the go. Plus the portable install which is very handy as well sometimes. Then there is the bridging which can also be useful, and seems to work pretty good (though I try not to rely on bridging solutions for any DAW if possible).
REAPER starts up super quick too, so you don't have to hang around for 60 seconds while it starts. Then there is the fact you can quickly check latency for a new plugin in its plugin window.
As I said, a really useful swiss army knife of a DAW that you may not even use every day, but will be glad you have on your machine.
Not so keen on the new default Theme. But v4 and v5 work as well as they ever did. I made up my own personal theme anyway (which I never shared), and I really enjoy making music on that, as well as trying out new and interesting ones. v4 and v5 are good solid workhorse themes though, and I'm used to them, so no complaints.
