Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

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AnX wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pm several hours? I imagine you're quite the expert.
Hehe. It was over the course of some weeks/months. I could've just said months :-P Still longer than most who will likely use it btw.. Sooooo.. Though I hope someone does a good, and unbiased, comparison :)

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Be sure there’s going to be comparisons all over the place. Don’t worry.

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PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:20 pm Though I hope someone does a good, and unbiased, comparison :)
very unlikely :hihi:

after seeing many comparisons over the years, the majority of them tend to be, shall we say, flawed....

im not sure how many ppl have one, they seem to be fairly rare, so who knows what the comparisons will actually be...

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PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pm Also, many of the areas, where you find differences in emulations versus hardware, tend to be shared, regardless of what's being emulated, because it relates directly to the mathematical difficulty in approximating the behaviour.. such as with resonance.
Opinion not based in fact....
PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pmit's all anyone else (than beta testers) have to form an opinion too :) As to the importance I attach to that, perhaps you're making many of your own assumptions about what I do and don't think.
Just reading what you wrote....
PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pm I've yet to hear anything from Obsession which established it's doing anything special, with resonance, over and above what Arturia's effort does..
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PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pmArturia's mod system wasn't part of the hardware.

Yet you think OBsession needs that system to make Brass sounds. Got it....
PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pmIt's not your place to tell other people what they can and can't do.
No but pointing out what they should do like not judging a plugin before they even have a chance to test it is a public service. :wink:
PAK wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:32 pmPeople can also be critical, or point out advantages other things might have, without it being about "slagging" anything off..
Absolutely, be critical all you want.....after you've actually tried the plugin. Complaining about it now is like complaining about your meal before it has even reached your table. :wink:
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Look... at the moment, I don’t care if this thing is 100% an OB-Xa, or is a 98% percent failure. What I do know is that Obsession is awesome, regardless if it completely nails the OB-Xa or not. It’s a simple, easy, unique and beautiful sounding little synthesizer that feels and plays like a real instrument should, and while capturing the overall character and behavior of the Oberheim, it’s also way more capable than the OB-Xa ever was. It’s a fine job by Synapse. I’m sure the Arturia’s is as well. So, enjoy whatever.
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Las Vegas has set the Over/Under at 15 posts after the demo is released before someone says "it doesn't sound like the hardware" no matter how much it does or how little the poster knows about the hardware.

I've got a stack on the Under..... :lol:
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Teksonik wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:28 pm Opinion not based in fact....
You think it's only an opinion, that some areas where emulations struggle can often directly relate to the "mathematical difficulty" involved? Hmmm, ok... :D
Yet you think OBsession needs that system to make Brass sounds. Got it....
Not what I said, but ok.
No but pointing out what they should do like not judging a plugin before they even have a chance to test it is a public service. :wink:
Except I never told anyone to do that, and what you're pointing out is nothing I'd disagree with. BTW Note the usage of yet and the specific context of hear, meaning related specifically to the audio demos. It means, amongst other things, that no conclusion has actually been drawn. Unfortunately, around this place, people read words and decide they can inject their own meanings and even intent into it.

The fact that you'd think people might need to be told the obvious (IE "Try for yourself") perhaps makes more of a statement about what you think of the intellect of others, in believing they require your very generous "public service" :)

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If there is an option to buy the beta, that would be cool 8) I hope devs make this option in the future (especially SA and u-he) to buy the beta without being a beta tester :)
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FWIW, as someone who owned not 1 but 2 Oberheims, I think I'm more than qualified to make a comparison. The problem is, right now, there is NOTHING to compare it to.

So how about we just wait until we can actually get our hands on the damn thing before we start saying anything about one versus the other. At this point, it doesn't even make any sense.

And yes, I am very biased because I think ALL the Oberheim synths were the greatest sounding synths of the era. If Obsession falls short, I'll hear it.

But let me hear it FIRST before making that determination.

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Soon.

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nvm
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I wish these vendors of hardware copies made in software actually would add a proper mod matrix as standard (because why not!!), plenty of LFOs and AHDSRs, and NOT COPYING THE HARDWARE LIMITATIONS, TOO. e.g. Repro1/5 could be a gigantic synth, but it only has one LFO etc.

Having more LFOs, randomizers, etc. the software could even sound more analog than the original.

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Hanz Meyzer wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:37 pm I wish these vendors of hardware copies made in software actually would add a proper mod matrix as standard (because why not!!), plenty of LFOs and AHDSRs, and NOT COPYING THE HARDWARE LIMITATIONS, TOO. e.g. Repro1/5 could be a gigantic synth, but it only has one LFO etc.

Having more LFOs, randomizers, etc. the software could even sound more analog than the original.
I have a hardware synth with one LFO. Any time I want more, I just use my iPhone or my DAW and to add them and then I have as many as I want. Or I use a different synth.

I do agree that a “modern mode” would be great on emulations of classic gear - like Arturia or PluginAlliance have sort of done... or even U-He with the panel below.

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wagtunes wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:33 pm FWIW, as someone who owned not 1 but 2 Oberheims, I think I'm more than qualified to make a comparison.
Perhaps. Memory can be a strange thing.. ;)
But let me hear it FIRST before making that determination.
Maybe "try" would be the better word :tu:

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I want to hear the filters .
Beta testers please upload some audios.
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