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VitaminD
Pick Me Pick me!
8890 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:01 am

AcidMoon wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:08 am
Ou_Tis wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:50 am
So if we have Cubase 10.5 would it be a good idea to buy the update now to use when 11 comes out?...
I am already using Cubase Pro 10.5 (updated from 9 to 10.5). Is it possible to update to 11 or higher if I purchase the 10.5 update now?
Namely, Is it the grace period even though it is the same version?
nope. I doubt it will accept an upgrade to 10.5 since you're already on 10.5. The grace period is mainly there to ensure old stock is supported.

dzilizzi
KVRian
1319 posts since 21 Sep, 2013 from California

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:03 am

Insanelysane wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:16 pm
dzilizzi wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:16 pm
Insanelysane wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:08 pm
dzilizzi wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:06 am
Ploki wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:13 am
chaos318 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:57 am
Save 40% on Cubase 10.5 and upgrades:
https://new.steinberg.net/promotion/?et ... sub=Cubase

neat... I can upgrade my 7.5 license to cubase 10.5 for 120€ or nuendo 10 for 240€.

hm hm. should I?
Buy it now and hold on to it until 11 comes out. You will get a free upgrade to 11 then.
I have in the past seen people say this can be done, just to confirm we are talking about upgrade not full version purchase and it will update to latest version (11 when it is released at end of year or shortly after) even though the purchase says 'upgrade to 10.5'?
Has someone done this successfully in the past?
Yes. You buy the update to 10.5 but don't register it until 11 comes out and it will give you an automatic update to 11. I've done this 3 times. And will do it again. You give up an immediate update for the update to the next full version.
Amazing! Thats super useful to know, thanks. One sneaky thought is - could one buy multiple upgrades at the discounted price it is now and use them in consecutive releases? Probably, why would you, probably not..?
because you can only upgrade from 10 to 10.5 once?

That is the only reason I think it won't work. If you want to spend $36 and try it? I'd love to know the results.

dzilizzi
KVRian
1319 posts since 21 Sep, 2013 from California

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:06 am

VitaminD wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:01 am
AcidMoon wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:08 am
Ou_Tis wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:50 am
So if we have Cubase 10.5 would it be a good idea to buy the update now to use when 11 comes out?...
I am already using Cubase Pro 10.5 (updated from 9 to 10.5). Is it possible to update to 11 or higher if I purchase the 10.5 update now?
Namely, Is it the grace period even though it is the same version?
nope. I doubt it will accept an upgrade to 10.5 since you're already on 10.5. The grace period is mainly there to ensure old stock is supported.
The grace period is usually about a month before the new version comes out and is to keep people from getting angry because they just paid for 10.5 only to find out 11 came out and they could have waited. They don't differentiate between buying an update and buying the full version, which is why this works. (ver 10.5 new costs the same as ver 11 new)

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
4557 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:35 am

AcidMoon wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:08 am
Ou_Tis wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:50 am
So if we have Cubase 10.5 would it be a good idea to buy the update now to use when 11 comes out?...
I am already using Cubase Pro 10.5 (updated from 9 to 10.5). Is it possible to update to 11 or higher if I purchase the 10.5 update now?
Namely, Is it the grace period even though it is the same version?
A discussion on the grace period at the Steinberg forum:
https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewto ... 1#p1019241
Might help.

WasteLand
KVRian
892 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:48 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:35 am
AcidMoon wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:08 am
Ou_Tis wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:50 am
So if we have Cubase 10.5 would it be a good idea to buy the update now to use when 11 comes out?...
I am already using Cubase Pro 10.5 (updated from 9 to 10.5). Is it possible to update to 11 or higher if I purchase the 10.5 update now?
Namely, Is it the grace period even though it is the same version?
A discussion on the grace period at the Steinberg forum:
https://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewto ... 1#p1019241
Might help.
in a way the grace period is somewhat confusing.
example, i know someone who bought cubase pro 7, several years back, already cheap.
activated it when pro 9.5 was out, he didn't know it, that i would get pro 9.5...
the time of activating counts, at least for a full version.

if you buy the update from cubase pro 10 to pro 10.5 for instance and wait untill version 12, i don't if that works......

the best option, do not consider the grace period, it is too confusing.

when cubase 11 arrives, then activate your 10.5 update. you get 11.

it's a pity i bought the pro 10.5 update almost immediately, and buying the update now, will not work to get 11, when 11 comes out, and activate it then. but this makes this post again confusing.

buy an unused cubase, even version 5. the time of activation counts, when cubase 10.5 is there, you get 10.5 (and 5, 6, 6.5, etc... you can install all older versions).

buy an update that you didn't buy before and more importantly didn't use, wait untill 11 arrives, don't count on the grace period. the launch date is never that fixed.
win 10 pro; cubase 10.5 pro, live 10 suite+push 2, reaper, reason 11 suite, bitwig studio 3, maschine mk3+jam, arturia V collection 7, korg collection, komplete 11 ultimate, softube modular, VM, meldaproduction etc.
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
4557 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:06 pm

^^^

The way I understand it is if you did not activate (nor download?) your 10.5 you would have been eligible for a free Cubase 11 during the upcoming grace period.

My guess is that Cubase 11 will be release in November 2020.
Ah, and get Padshop 2, well and much more!

Tomgu
KVRist
235 posts since 8 Sep, 2014

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:17 pm

I do it like this:
Buy the x.0 -> x.5 update (on update sale, if possible). Wait until x+1.0 is released, then activate it, and gain the latest .0 version. Or maybe wait until version x+2.0, but not x+1.5.

Why? A: it has been cheaper to buy the update from x.0 to x.5 than x.5 to x+1.0, and usually I don’t need the latest version.

Note: It’s better to buy the update from Cubase Pro 10 to 10.5 now, before the version 11 released, because the updates from older versions cost more and more the longer you wait.

v1o
KVRAF
2288 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:41 pm

Insanelysane wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Amazing! Thats super useful to know, thanks. One sneaky thought is - could one buy multiple upgrades at the discounted price it is now and use them in consecutive releases? Probably, why would you, probably not..?
e@rs wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:00 am
The discounted upgrade price is available each year at least once, so why on Earth would you buy multiple times now?
Yes. Steinberg could even drop the product or switch to a subscription model like Adobe did, while you're sitting on a pile of unregistered Cubase upgrades. Going back in history after Cubase VST5 they discontinued that product and brought out Cubase SX, which was a whole new product based on new code borrowed from Nuendo.
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MogwaiBoy
KVRAF
3591 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:08 pm

Happy Birthday USA. Bring on the 4th July sales!

Kurdish Mayfield
KVRist
162 posts since 9 Mar, 2011

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:30 pm

v1o wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:41 pm
Insanelysane wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:16 pm

Amazing! Thats super useful to know, thanks. One sneaky thought is - could one buy multiple upgrades at the discounted price it is now and use them in consecutive releases? Probably, why would you, probably not..?
e@rs wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:00 am
The discounted upgrade price is available each year at least once, so why on Earth would you buy multiple times now?
Yes. Steinberg could even drop the product or switch to a subscription model like Adobe did, while you're sitting on a pile of unregistered Cubase upgrades. Going back in history after Cubase VST5 they discontinued that product and brought out Cubase SX, which was a whole new product based on new code borrowed from Nuendo.
but , as I recall, Steiny still provided discount upgrades to go from VST5 to Cubase SX. I think they realized they'd programmed themselves into a corner and VST 5 couldnt go forward.

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telecode
KVRAF
1935 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:47 pm

Ou_Tis wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:50 am
So if we have Cubase 10.5 would it be a good idea to buy the update now to use when 11 comes out?...
you can do that or wait it out for 11.5. i personally prefer the .5 releases. i feel they have more bugs irons out of them.

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KVRAF
1935 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:53 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:06 pm
^^^

The way I understand it is if you did not activate (nor download?) your 10.5 you would have been eligible for a free Cubase 11 during the upcoming grace period.

My guess is that Cubase 11 will be release in November 2020.
Ah, and get Padshop 2, well and much more!
FWIW.. this was how i upgraded to 10.5 pro last year. i bought the license on sale, and then waited for 10.5 to come out to activate. it works fine. just dont lose your activation code. :-)

Ou_Tis
KVRian
591 posts since 10 Jul, 2018

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:59 pm

telecode wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:53 pm
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:06 pm
^^^

The way I understand it is if you did not activate (nor download?) your 10.5 you would have been eligible for a free Cubase 11 during the upcoming grace period.

My guess is that Cubase 11 will be release in November 2020.
Ah, and get Padshop 2, well and much more!
FWIW.. this was how i upgraded to 10.5 pro last year. i bought the license on sale, and then waited for 10.5 to come out to activate. it works fine. just dont lose your activation code. :-)
I guess you mean you had 9.5 already activated, bought the update from 9.5 to 10 during the summer sale, and waited to activate it until 10.5 came out.

Has anyone had version x already activated, bought the update from x minus .5 to x during the sale, and then waited to activate it until after x+.5 came out?

Now I'm leaning towards waiting for 11.5 to update from 10.5, but I'm still curious if getting the sale price for updating from 10.5 to 11 is an option.

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telecode
KVRAF
1935 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:31 pm

Ou_Tis wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:59 pm
telecode wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:53 pm
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:06 pm
^^^

The way I understand it is if you did not activate (nor download?) your 10.5 you would have been eligible for a free Cubase 11 during the upcoming grace period.

My guess is that Cubase 11 will be release in November 2020.
Ah, and get Padshop 2, well and much more!
FWIW.. this was how i upgraded to 10.5 pro last year. i bought the license on sale, and then waited for 10.5 to come out to activate. it works fine. just dont lose your activation code. :-)
I guess you mean you had 9.5 already activated, bought the update from 9.5 to 10 during the summer sale, and waited to activate it until 10.5 came out.

Has anyone had version x already activated, bought the update from x minus .5 to x during the sale, and then waited to activate it until after x+.5 came out?

Now I'm leaning towards waiting for 11.5 to update from 10.5, but I'm still curious if getting the sale price for updating from 10.5 to 11 is an option.
no. i was on cubase le which didnt use a dondle. upgraded to 10.5 pro and dongle.

it pretty much all comes down to how long you want to give yamaha/steinberg your money without accepting the product. do you care if they have your money and you don't get your product until 6 to 12 months later? if you don't, then it doesn't matter really. in my case, i just wanted to wait because i believe 10.5 might be more stable. not sure that is entirely the case.

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Uncle E
KVRAF
11863 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California

Post Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:40 pm

maschinelf wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:55 am
Thanks aMUSEd .. do you usually buy the upgrade from jrrshop?
The upgrade trick works with upgrades purchased from JRR Shop. We have a lot of customers who do that.

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