The riffs you hate (and why you hate them)

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KVRAF
2297 posts since 5 Nov, 2014

Post Tue May 11, 2021 3:29 pm

Basshunter Boten Anna
Scooter How much is the fish
Metallica I Disappear
Guns n Roses Sweet Child
Cyndi Lauper Girls just want to have fun
The Chemical Brothers Galvanize
Kelis Milkshake

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KVRian

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1448 posts since 27 Aug, 2004

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:16 pm

jancivil wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:28 am
I definitely did not buy whatever album Owner appeared on. 952-something iirc.
it's IMO a kind of uneven effort. I actively like that song, though. I didn't like the direction overall and I developed an animus for Trevor Horn rather quickly. Wakeman liked to say "Owner of a Horse and Cart" for some reason.
I liked 90125 a lot. It was a solid collection of melodic rock. Much like Dio vs Ozzy era Black Sabbath, both things I like for different reasons.

What was really pathetic was Steve Howe trying to do the solo to Owner, at least when I saw them in 2015. It was like he was freaked out by the harmonizer and couldn't deal with the concept that he would play one note and out came two. Seriously, with all the stuff he's done, that trips him up?
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KVRian

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1448 posts since 27 Aug, 2004

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:19 pm

herodotus wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 12:26 pm
I myself don't care for anything after Close to the Edge.
I hated the title track. Swap it out for "At the Gates of Delirium" and Close to the Edge would have been a much better album.
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KVRian

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1448 posts since 27 Aug, 2004

Post Tue May 11, 2021 9:21 pm

I once heard someone refer to the beginning of "Sweet Home Alabama" as a "4 note intelligence test".
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KVRAF
6482 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Tue May 11, 2021 10:02 pm

Hate's bad and such a downer, no hate. mkay?

Except fricking "whisky in the jar", that aneamic, whiny, twiddly excuse of a riff. Hate it with great a passion.
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KVRian
1439 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit Sol III

Post Tue May 11, 2021 10:13 pm

jancivil wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:00 pm
also Going For the One is easily the greatest rock album ever
Definitely in my top 10. In particular there is very little that effects me the way the song "Awaken" does. Hearing it done live was cathartic, every time.

i would add "the Glorious Om Riff" to that list also.
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KVRAF
3182 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.

Post Wed May 12, 2021 2:45 am

mumpcake wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 9:16 pm
jancivil wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:28 am
I definitely did not buy whatever album Owner appeared on. 952-something iirc.
it's IMO a kind of uneven effort. I actively like that song, though. I didn't like the direction overall and I developed an animus for Trevor Horn rather quickly. Wakeman liked to say "Owner of a Horse and Cart" for some reason.
I liked 90125 a lot. It was a solid collection of melodic rock. Much like Dio vs Ozzy era Black Sabbath, both things I like for different reasons.

What was really pathetic was Steve Howe trying to do the solo to Owner, at least when I saw them in 2015. It was like he was freaked out by the harmonizer and couldn't deal with the concept that he would play one note and out came two. Seriously, with all the stuff he's done, that trips him up?
Considering the stories I've read,maybe he meant a horse & cart to carry them back on to the charts

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KVRAF
5629 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities

Post Wed May 12, 2021 2:59 am

melomood wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 12:33 pm
herodotus wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 11:22 am
jancivil wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 1:59 am
I had about forgotten about Yes by 1983. When they came out with that I was highly amused.
I had not forgotten Yes and excitedly bought the album on the day it was released. The excitement died almost as soon as the stylus hit the first track.
I was a bit earlier. After enjoying the solo albums I looked forward to their return when Going For the One came out. I missed Roger Dean's artwork on the way home. I was so put off by that opening track that I just put it aside and moved on. Tormato did not entice the wallet
Yeah, I forgot about "Tormato". Or perhaps 'repressed' would a better word.

KVRAF
21979 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Wed May 12, 2021 9:06 am

CrystalWizard wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 10:13 pm
jancivil wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:00 pm
also Going For the One is easily the greatest rock album ever
Definitely in my top 10. In particular there is very little that effects me the way the song "Awaken" does. Hearing it done live was cathartic, every time.
Have you seen the version with Todmobile?

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KVRian
1439 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit Sol III

Post Wed May 12, 2021 11:46 am

jancivil wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:06 am
CrystalWizard wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 10:13 pm
jancivil wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:00 pm
also Going For the One is easily the greatest rock album ever
Definitely in my top 10. In particular there is very little that effects me the way the song "Awaken" does. Hearing it done live was cathartic, every time.
Have you seen the version with Todmobile?
i have now! Thanks, amazing especially the choral addition.
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KVRAF
3182 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.

Post Wed May 12, 2021 3:36 pm

After so many years I did come around to some of the tracks aside from the opener. My Yes collection is all over the place with an embarrassingly large number of 'Close to the Edge' live performances.
I dare to mention the dreaded Tales From Topographic Oceans because people (including a certain band member who quit) have such strong opinions about it, but I still enjoy an occasional listen

Drives my partner insane,but hey

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KVRAF
2048 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Wed May 12, 2021 4:33 pm

I have a record, Relayer, by Yes, and it's cool.
"Have you ever noticed how anyone driving faster than you is a [jerk] and anyone driving slower than you is a moron?" - George Carlin

KVRAF
21979 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Wed May 12, 2021 4:50 pm

I had an original group formed with someone that went from being majorly in thrall to the Beatles to being in that kind of thrall to Yes.
I was heavily into particularly Close to the Edge, and South Side of the Sky and Heart of the Sunrise on Fragile. We were both heavily into Tales. This singer/songwriter ended up very religious, I just am not geared to that.

We only saw them once, in Columbia SC with the group with Moraz after Wakeman split. I went onto music school and there was a lot of catching up to do. Relayer was probably the last thing I played very close attention to for a while.

KVRAF
21979 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from not here

Post Wed May 12, 2021 4:53 pm

Wakeman refused to memorize parts he played on the album, Tales and Anderson kept hammering at him to, finally "I'm about sick of you" and he left.

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KVRAF
3182 posts since 15 Oct, 2017 from U.S.

Post Thu May 13, 2021 10:29 am

Ha. I'd read that Wakeman wasn't on board with the whole concept & bickering about chord changes that went on for hours and such
It's a shame how things worked out with Moraz. I liked what he brought to Relayer.
You're hitting all the spots with those song choices but for me 'And You And I' is....yes I'm going to say it, Everything!

Start a thread about songs & riffs you absolutely love and I'll yammer on about how much I love the opening of that song.

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