Trackspacer (Wavesfactory) alternatives?

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KVRist
74 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:35 am

plato1123 wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:05 pm
I frickin adore TrackSpacer VST, what a great plugin... but after reading this thread I tried SmartComp and wow I think it might even be better than TrackSpacer. I can basically play two synths/instruments in exactly the same frequency range and somehow magically they are both intelligible and clear. Totally blown away.
Did you put SmartComp on just one of the tracks, or both? How might soothe2 compare in this respect?

KVRer
8 posts since 10 Nov, 2012

Post Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:01 am

To me trackspacer is the best and pretty reasonably priced too.
https://youtu.be/5RjbQcZL930

KVRist
101 posts since 31 Jan, 2021

Post Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:57 pm

Please delete this post.
Last edited by sambaji on Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

KVRist
463 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:13 pm

sambaji wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:57 pm
shibs wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:25 pm
fese wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 5:52 am
psynical wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:06 pm
Why can't you use Trackspacer?
I'll never understand these threads where people ask for alternatives to x, but don't mention why they can't use x in the first place. If you want help finding something, it's usually a good idea to list your requirements.
My first thought, too. What is wrong with Trackspacer? It absolutely works as designed and you can get it for 30 to 40 bucks in a sale.
Trackspacer would've been a killer app if it had a) lookahead - to be able to carve space in time and not deal with the delay in catching up b) multiple band selection
I own trackspacer, but end up using other mechanisms/tools for that 2-3 ms early action..
I think these are the reasons ppl look for alternatives...
I agree. Trackspacer lacks two important features for high-end mixing/mastering to minimize artifacts (distortion) from aliasing and quick attack times: look-a-head feature and at least 4x upsampling. I tested a sweep tone with additional harmonics with Trackspacer, while sidechaining it with the same tone, and there was very audible aliasing in the upper frequencies at fairly moderate settings (30% ratio, 1.2ms Attack, and 31ms Release). Until Trackspacer has oversampling and a look-a-head function, I wouldn't use it on upper-frequency harmonically rich content. While zero-latency is great for tracking, be wary of zero latency with plugins that introduce saturation/distortion such as compressors, including dynamic EQs, and saturators for mixdowns and mastering: look-a-head and oversampling options require latency. In other words, I would use dynamic EQ such as TDR Nova GE over Trackspacer for my ducking/side-chaining purposes. But, don't take my amateur word for it (perhaps my testing procedure was faulty), check it out for free with a tone generator such as Melda's free Moscillator (select a preset with additional harmonics. I used Pop 3 Bass) and a spectrum analyzer such as the free Span vst so you can see the aliasing. Some may not mind aliasing, but being a purest when it comes to audio, I want maximum transparency unless I am intentionally choosing to add character/coloration to a sound.
Is the aliasing at an audible level?

KVRist
101 posts since 31 Jan, 2021

Post Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:52 pm

Most if not all the audible aliasing is the artifact of the Moscilator plugin, not Trackspacer. I am going to delete my original post until I am able to test Trackspacer properly with a different oscillator that has oversampling. My bad.

KVRist
243 posts since 18 Feb, 2019

Post Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:20 pm

sambaji wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:52 pm
Most if not all the audible aliasing is the artifact of the Moscilator plugin, not Trackspacer. I am going to delete my original post until I am able to test Trackspacer properly with a different oscillator that has oversampling. My bad.
I thought all Melda plugins can be oversampled to x1024

KVRist
101 posts since 31 Jan, 2021

Post Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:23 pm

GusGranite wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:20 pm
sambaji wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:52 pm
Most if not all the audible aliasing is the artifact of the Moscilator plugin, not Trackspacer. I am going to delete my original post until I am able to test Trackspacer properly with a different oscillator that has oversampling. My bad.
I thought all Melda plugins can be oversampled to x1024
Not the free ones I use. That's probably for the paid versions.

KVRAF
4138 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:26 am

Oversampling doesn't require latency, it only requires latency if AA filter is linear phase. If it's minimal phase (like it's optional on Voxengo plugins), then the latency can be 0.
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KVRAF
2787 posts since 22 May, 2017

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:34 am

The OP drops a post asking for alternatives to an excellent plugin with no mention of why, replies once, then never returns again. :hihi: God I love KVR.

KVRAF
3900 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:14 pm

Russell Grand wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:34 am
The OP drops a post asking for alternatives to an excellent plugin with no mention of why, replies once, then never returns again. :hihi: God I love KVR.
Just you wait. By the 6th page we'll all be listing our favourite transient designers :lol:

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