NI go VST 3

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion
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KVRian
1242 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:37 pm

Null_Echo wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:55 pm
pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm
No scalable GUIs in this update
Ugh, the one thing I was really hoping for, honestly. It just baffles me...Kontakt has a scalable UI, but none of the plugins do. Baffling.
I'm probably wrong but I feel like these plugins have now a sharper-looking GUI (or it's just my imagination as I can't compare anymore), so maybe they redid it which means that maybe the next update will add resizing option.
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KVRAF
3797 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:42 pm

pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:37 pm
Null_Echo wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:55 pm
pixel85 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:29 pm
No scalable GUIs in this update
Ugh, the one thing I was really hoping for, honestly. It just baffles me...Kontakt has a scalable UI, but none of the plugins do. Baffling.
I'm probably wrong but I feel like these plugins have now a sharper-looking GUI (or it's just my imagination as I can't compare anymore), so maybe they redid it which means that maybe the next update will add resizing option.
Sounds promising and likely the next step.

I will update one or two and then try to do some comparisons with those that are not updated and Crush/Mod Pack (since they have scalable GUIs).

KVRAF
7653 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 pm

I noticed in the release notes they have added 'User Tracking' to all the VST3 updates...I wonder what that is?
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KVRist
371 posts since 7 Sep, 2012

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:02 am

"Native Instruments introduces Usage Data Tracking technology which enables the NI application to automatically track Usage Data that you can choose to share with us.

We encourage all users to keep Data Tracking enabled as it provides a valuable tool for understanding the performance of Native Instruments applications as they are being used in actual situations."

https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... /209545029

KVRian
1203 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:02 am

I'm still happy using VST2 in all of my projects, but it's good that NI are pushing out updates none the less!
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KVRian
1046 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:02 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:42 pm
I will update one or two and then try to do some comparisons with those that are not updated and Crush/Mod Pack (since they have scalable GUIs).
I hope they'll also add View Sizes to Replika XT.

Not sure if I'll start using the VST3 plugins or stick with VST2. It all depends on whether the VST3 plugins will give better performance in Maschine as that is my main VST host. Do the updates install new VST2 versions btw?

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KVRAF
9309 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:11 am

gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:48 am
chk071 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 am
You guys think they make the UIs scalable?
Their newer plugins have various UI sizes.
Yeah I know, I'm just trying to not buy stuff I wont use right now, so Komplete is like a double edged sword. It's ofc still the best value proposition but I mean, the highest value is the VST you use :hihi:.
Most DAWs - Live, Bitwig, Studio One, Cubase - will scale non DPI-aware plugins accordingly. They'll obviously be softer/blockier than native scaling, but on a 4K screen that's much less of an issue and they're usable.
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KVRist
163 posts since 8 Dec, 2014

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:38 am

antic604 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:11 am
gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:48 am
chk071 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 am
You guys think they make the UIs scalable?
Their newer plugins have various UI sizes.
Yeah I know, I'm just trying to not buy stuff I wont use right now, so Komplete is like a double edged sword. It's ofc still the best value proposition but I mean, the highest value is the VST you use :hihi:.
Most DAWs - Live, Bitwig, Studio One, Cubase - will scale non DPI-aware plugins accordingly. They'll obviously be softer/blockier than native scaling, but on a 4K screen that's much less of an issue and they're usable.
Studio One's scaling never really worked for me. Haven't tried BitWigs yet!

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KVRAF
9309 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:45 am

gExpectations wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:38 am
Studio One's scaling never really worked for me.
Really? The only one I had issues with in Studio One was Loom2 from Air I believe. And I've a lot of plugins :)
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KVRAF
28772 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:01 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:53 pm
I noticed in the release notes they have added 'User Tracking' to all the VST3 updates...I wonder what that is?
Metrics to record data about most used functions in their plugins. A.K.A. "they listen to their users".

I thought all their plugins had that anyway though. So, not something they added with the VST3. Also note that it is optional, so, you can turn it off, if you feel like they shouldn't listen to your wishes. ;)
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KVRian
1046 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:49 am

Mick @ NI:

These 15 effects have been updated to VST3 and are now officially supported in macOS Big Sur and have Rosetta 2 support for the Apple M1 chips:

Solid Mix Series: Solid Bus Comp, Solid Dynamic, Solid EQ

Reverb Classics: RC 24, RC 48

Vintage Compressors: VC 160, VC 2A, VC 76

Premium Tube Series: Enhanced EQ, Passive EQ, Vari Comp

Driver

Supercharger, Supercharger GT

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KVRian
870 posts since 24 Jan, 2006 from Universe #5346198720

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:55 am

antic604 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:11 am
gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:48 am
chk071 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
gExpectations wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:55 am
You guys think they make the UIs scalable?
Their newer plugins have various UI sizes.
Yeah I know, I'm just trying to not buy stuff I wont use right now, so Komplete is like a double edged sword. It's ofc still the best value proposition but I mean, the highest value is the VST you use :hihi:.
Most DAWs - Live, Bitwig, Studio One, Cubase - will scale non DPI-aware plugins accordingly. They'll obviously be softer/blockier than native scaling, but on a 4K screen that's much less of an issue and they're usable.
Yeah! And for those that don't or for stand-alone versions, just use a screen magnifier FFS. Really don't know what's the problem here - though I blame it on Apple and their retina-washing. This, and we seem to be living in the Age of Entitlement...
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KVRAF
28772 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:58 am

Lotuz2019 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:49 am
Mick @ NI:

These 15 effects have been updated to VST3 and are now officially supported in macOS Big Sur and have Rosetta 2 support for the Apple M1 chips:

Solid Mix Series: Solid Bus Comp, Solid Dynamic, Solid EQ

Reverb Classics: RC 24, RC 48

Vintage Compressors: VC 160, VC 2A, VC 76

Premium Tube Series: Enhanced EQ, Passive EQ, Vari Comp

Driver

Supercharger, Supercharger GT

Transient Master
Thanks. Looks like they drop some "safe" updates for the older plugins first, before doing the newer stuff. ;)
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KVRian
1046 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:10 pm

chk071 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:58 am
Thanks. Looks like they drop some "safe" updates for the older plugins first, before doing the newer stuff. ;)
Newer? Replika XT is 5 years old! :o :D

But maybe it's better to wait and see if there are issues with the first 15 VST3 plugins. :wink:

KVRAF
28772 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:34 pm

I consider 5 years old pretty new. ;)

Slow industry.

And, yep @ your second sentence. I'm pretty sure that's the point of that kind of roll out.
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